And again boys and girls we see the ignorance exposed.
Gender re-assignment is the equivalent of dressing-up? No, it isn’t.
Your judgement is clouded by your hatred of the crime to the point of absurdity. I think we can safely say you have no objectivity in this matter.
Explain to me how it’s different, then.
I don’t think that’s the only hatred in play, here.
Accepting what you say, giving him the hormones sounds reasonable. As far as the surgery, if he should choose to have it, he can wait for that.
So it’s dressing up and getting plastic surgery.
Dude, if that was all he was doing, I’d agree with you. But if he is in fact in need of gender reassignment procedures, that’s a whole different ball of wax. Can you imagine the you that you are today being in a body of the opposite sex? That’s gotta be awful.
He’s in prison and with good cause. I don’t care how he feels, because he lost the right to do anything about it when he decided to commit treason.
So when you asked for the information, you had no intention of accepting it? Something to remember for the next time you ask for anything.
I asked for information and didn’t get anything that explained to me that it makes a difference. All I’m hearing is “You’re wrong because you’re wrong and if you don’t understand it’s because you’re a bigot.”
Have you seen a audiologist about your problem?
I can’t stand the little twit, and the penalties couldn’t be too strong for my liking. If the judge erred the other way and ordered him to be executed, I’d have little problem with that. But the fact is that we give prisoners medical treatment. As I said, if Miller’s information is correct, I’m fine with giving him some hormones. Particularly if we can see him looking to do this before he turned into a thief and traitor.
A transsexual has no basis for comparison to claim this is true - he has never experienced life in the body of a woman. He can only say his life as a man sucks - but that might just be because his life sucks.
Well, one could after he’s completed the full gender reassignment procedure, right? I mean at that point he/she would have experienced life in both types of bodies. That siad, I do see and accept the point you were making.
It would be one thing if the gender reassignment was already halfway completed or something. Manning is 25 years old. He’s had plenty of time to decide do to this. Why is it only now that he’s in prison that he wants it?
Definitely no plastic surgery for prisoners on our dollar. As to the hormones, what do they cost? If it’s much more than aspirin I say let him wait.
Prisoners should be given treatment needed to keep them alive. Give them antibiotics for an infection, or surgery for appendicitis. Things that aren’t required to keep them alive like sleep apnea, lasik eye surgery or gender reassignment can wait until they get out of prison and pay for it themselves.
Given the track record of how well transsexuals do after gender reassignment surgery, I’d say the science is in need of just a BIT more evolution before we decide to hand them out at taxpayer expense to convicted felons.
Also, then you’d have a woman in a man’s prison. Are you going to transfer that person to a womens’ facility? I think not.
Generally not true. Most trans people report that simply being treated like the gender with which they identify relieves an enormous amount of the psychological strain of their condition, even if they aren’t yet receiving any medical treatment.
Is that generally how disassociative disorders are treated, by treating people as they think they are?
And where did that diagnosis come from?
Here’s the rest of that relevant part of my post, where I clearly stated I thought he was being punished, and I thought it was adequate punishment. So, no, I’m not dodging anything.
If you think that means I don’t believe people should be punished for crimes, then we don’t have anything further to discuss.