Actually, having the defending champion knocked-out at the group stage seems to have become frequent recently: it happened to France in 2002, Italy in 2010 and now Spain. 3 out of the last 4 World Cups.
Before that, you have to go back to 1966 (Brazil) and 1950 (Italy again) to find other examples.
Thanks for this info. Is uppose with a winning team there is always a tendency to remain loyal to aging players, overly loyal perhaps.
Then again Spain were always a funny lot. The brief period they were at their best they competed handily, however when the going gets tough the Spanish national team invariably fails. It has happened to the national team throughout its competative history.
On paper we should have a good chance against a team for whom the likes of Lugano, who could hardly get a game at West Brom, is in the first eleven. Of course, England don’t tend to play so well on grass.
A draw won’t be the end of the world, if my arithmetic is correct, and Costa Rica don’t beat Italy tomorrow.
As usual, people misinterpret why I call others “Germany nuthuggers.” The reason I do that is for the people who rave about the German team without acknowledging that all its appearances in Finals, semifinals, and quarterfinals are NOT all due to its “consistency,” and its “great” defending and just general “superior” soccer. There have been times (MANY times) that the German team has been the beneficiary of SOMETHING in getting as far as it has in World Cups: shoddy refereeing that benefited it, a lucky draw that saw it not have to play any teams of any real substance until late in the tournament, you name it. If you or any other nuthuggers don’t want to acknowledge any of that that’s your business but don’t expect people like me to just buy into “the Germans are just better at soccer than everybody else” line of thinking 'cause I’m not going to do that. EVER. They seem to have a strong team right now and even I (as much as I hate to) acknowledge that, as of right now, they look like a VERY good bet to win this tournament. But it’s not a sure thing, even if all the Germany nuthuggers are thinking that it is right now.
You people have proven to be just as thin-skinned as those at other message boards. I remember reading from somebody once that “every time I go to a message board I’m reminded why I don’t like going to message boards” which is exactly how I feel about it. I was hoping those at the SDMB would be a little more lenient about things but apparently I was wrong. You people go on and have your senseless fun. I’m out.
I hereby retract the above statement. Gawd, that was embarrassing.
I saw only part of the first half of Colombia vs. Cote D’Ivorie. Wish I had seen the second. I was impressed with both teams. Different styles but good play all around. I’m hoping for them both to make it out of the group stage.