Good point, you’d think Jesse would have the sense not to show up after he said that. You’d also think there might be cops there that might want to talk to him.
That was Jesse telling Walt that he set up the situation for Gus to go to the hospital.
I don’t see any way that Walt could have poisoned the kid if Jesse had the cigarette that morning.
I’m wondering if the kid is really suffering from Ricin poison. Could it be an a real illness and coincidentally the cigarette was taken by Tyrus?
This is the only show on TV that ever finds me holding my breath. The scene of “Will Gus or won’t he (go to the car)?” was one of the most suspenseful ever on TV.
This is the one of the few episodes where you wish Walt would hug Jesse because he needs it.
Was it definitively said that the kid was suffering from ricin poisoning? Also, do we know for sure that Gus has a mole in the DEA?
That’s the part that makes no sense. As soon as Ricin was mentioned to the doctors they would have called the authorities and the place would be crawling with FBI, even if no ricin was found.
Whoever he took to Mexico had to be able to cook. The only stooge that could cook was Victor. The cook happened before the slaughter. Though I suppose, from your standpoint, forcing Jesse to cook that way could have been to make him prove to himself that he could cook on his own.
When did it all really start though? When (I really don’t remember) did Walt start getting weird about this. Was it the first time Jesse went on a ride along with Mike? Why, exactly, does Gus need Walt out of the picture? Why does Gus want only Jesse cooking? Gus knows as well as us and Jesse that Walt can cook better then anyone else
Jesse told Gus that the doctors knew the kid was poisoned. Whether or not Jesse knew that for sure I can’t say.
I can’t recall anything that indicated that Gus has a mole, but with as big an operation as he has, it makes sense that he would have one or more.
I’d forgotten that he did a cook before they were poisoned, but Gus could have just as easily given that gift before the poisoning. Come to think of it, why did he risk Jesse screwing up the cook before poisoning everyone?
Because this has been asked about in this thread and others I’ll mention it here but beware there are HUGE SPOILERS HERE… This was in the “On the next Breaking Bad” preview
Gus definitely has a mole in the DEA. They don’t make it entirely clear if he always has or if it’s something new and they editing of the preview suggests that it’s the guy that asked if he could take a walk around the laundry.
A) That was celebrating their new partnership (or whatever you would call it) I don’t think he would have given it to them before they struck a deal and if he did I don’t think they would have opened it until later. Don’t forget what the deal was. He was giving them Jesse. Until he proved that he could cook, nothing had happened. If he messed up the cook there wouldn’t have been anything to celebrate.
B)I don’t think he saw it as a risk. He knew Jesse could cook just fine.
Walt had his glasses resting on top of his head. The shot lingered on the glasses several times. I think it is possible that they may have been reflecting sunlight, and Gus may have seen it for a split second. Alternatively, it may just be that Gus was simply contemplating something that happened between him and Jesse, and decided that he was not finished at the hospital. Walt, of course, (and the viewer) would immediately think he gave himself away, but the world does not always revolve around Walter. Although, I think the former explanation is probably correct.
I don’t know if Gus saw Walt from the garage, but he probably detected that Jesse was not acting to type at the hospital. He was too calm and rational. Back in the garage it may have occurred to him why. He could have just been pondering the situation, or actually looking for Walt, but he didn’t need to see him.
I think Gus is only paranoid and suspicious because he remembered that someone knew where he was going to be (the hospital) and that he had been required to go to the hospital by that person’s behavior. I’m not sure that Gus even knew to look for someone, he might have just been gazing and thinking. It would have been really reckless to be looking for an assassin that way as he would be a perfect sniper target.
Gus stopped because Jesse mentioned the poison and it finally snapped into place that he was being set up. You’d think “don’t mention the poison!” would be the first thing Walt would’ve told him when setting the plan up, but oh well. Too bad Walt doesn’t know how to shoot, he could’ve easily popped Gus with a rifle. It would’ve been even more interesting if they brought Jesse along and they showed Walt not being sure if he should blow it up anyway.
This episode just showed that the first half of the season with all those slow episodes were a huge waste of potential because now we’re supposed to care about Jesse’s paid off pseudo-GF (Andrea, apparently) and kid with a funny name? Those slow episodes should’ve showed Jesse and them interacting, forming a rapport, you know, characterization and development. That way right now would be the pay off where we’re concerned and so on, instead of not caring. And characterization isn’t showing them play some bad Sonic game for 30 seconds.
They already did that when she and Brock were first introduced.
But afterwords he didn’t continue towards the car, he was walking away from it. It seemed clear to me that he knew there was a problem with it. I just wish they would have shown what tipped him off. The sun reflecting off the binoculers, a stray wire hanging from under the car*, something, anything. Like I said earlier, I like Gus being 10 steps ahead, I don’t like him having superpowers.
*My guess is that next week we’ll find out that he noticed a stray wire hanging out from under the car.
Walt Jr. tonight had the funniest line of the season:
Hank: “I wouldn’t worry about any danger to Walt or any of us. This whole thing is just a damn smokescreen. An anonymous threat against me? I’m stuck in a wheelchair. I’m not even on the job. No, someone doesn’t like the way I’ve been spending my free time.”
Walt Jr.: “What? Minerals?”
I’m guessing it’s the reflection off Walt’s glasses that spooked Gus. I was surprised that Gus didn’t have one of his goons watch his car while he went to talk to Jesse. That would’ve killed Walt’s plan altogether. I never doubted that it was Gus who arranged to poison the kid. He had the best motive and opportunity (via Tyrus). I thought that this episode was a bit of a letdown after the previous two superb episodes. It was good, but somewhat predictable (surely, no one expected Jesse to shoot Walt, or Walt to actually succeed in blowing up Gus – not just yet). I’m sure that next week’s episode will be fittingly exciting for a season-ender.
First of all, I’m taking it at face value that either Walt was right about Gus’s goon swiping the ricin, and giving it to Brock so it’ll look like Walt was taking revenge on Jesse for betraying him. Or, Jesse misplaced his “lucky” cigarette, and it just so happened that Brock’s critically sick from something unrelated and Jesse jumped to a bad conclusion.
I find it really, really strange for the cops not to be there if the boy was found to really have ricin poisoning. That’s not a detail the writers of the show would miss, I don’t think. So, there’s that to consider.
Also, the way Jesse was insinuating the poisoning to Gus at the hospital is what made all the pieces of being set up align in Gus’s very attuned gut. When he was walking back to his car, I think just the emptiness that surrounded it triggered an unavoidable suspicion in Gus’s head; that feeling of being watched. Everyone is on a hair trigger, so he’s not taking any chances at all. Whether or not it was just a good hunch, or of there was something he noticed, we can’t know yet.
We also can’t know if Gus really did poison the kid. I’m starting to think it’s a big circumstantial misunderstanding, and Jesse just tipped his cards, because if Gus actually didn’t know about the poison, he certainly does now, and there could only be one reason for that to exist.
He also must know Walt is a frikkin mad scientist. It was kickass to see Walt devising a homemade car bomb. Since the ruse didn’t work, I wonder if Walt can get a chance to remove it. If not, the element of surprise is gone, and Gus will go into lock-down. I miss that from this season. If anyone as super powers, it’s Walt… I’d love to see another “fulminated mercury” type of wild card card he cooks up. With his skills and knowledge of chemistry, I’m sure he can think of hundreds of novel ways to kill somebody.
Also, I just know Hank’s going to see something in one of those pics. I wonder what he might see, that’ll clinch it.
I loved how this season started out as a slow boil and gradually turned into a pressure cooker. These last few episodes have been some of the most taut television I’ve ever seen.
As usual, you guys really know how to over-analyze the shit out of this show (and form some pretty ridiculous conclusions in the process). Gus didn’t see any “reflection from Walt’s glasses/binoculars”. If he did the audience would have seen some indication: when a person notices something from afar, their natural reaction is to focus their attention on it and squint. Not to quietly contemplate to themselves, then gaze out on the horizon in a vague direction as he did.
But most importantly, we know he didn’t see anything because he didn’t need to. The whole situation was just suspicious enough to set off his spidey sense - which is already ultra-sensitive because A: he’s wicked smart, and B: he’s in a very, very dangerous line of work so he’s always on high alert.
Look, this show is great and it’s full of subtleties, but most of the time you can just take things at face value and you’ll be right. Occam’s razor most definitely applies. Drawing all these far-fetched lines of thought that have not been indicated in any way whatsoever on-screen is cute and all, but wrong. Another example being: Walt didn’t poison Brock. He is a very flawed hero, but he is still the protagonist of this show. And in Hollywood, there are rules for how far a hero can go before he becomes completely irredeemable. Poisoning Brock would have fully crossed that line. I know we like to think BB is so progressive that it’s breaking the mold and none of the time-honored Hollywood rules apply, but they really still do. And it didn’t happen by chance either, because the #1 rule of good screenwriting is that everything happens for a reason. A chance occurrence that drives the plot so dramatically would be way too deus ex machina, and hence sloppy writing (which the writers here are not guilty of, any accusations that may have been made here by people who have no idea what they’re talking about notwithstanding).
And I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again as a general comment: despite the overall respect for realism that BB has, if you don’t cut them a little suspension of disbelief here and there (i.e. “why weren’t the cops there if the kid had ricin poisoning? So unrealistic!”), you are going to be disappointed no matter what. Because you know what? Real life never, ever happens the way it does on TV. Which is why real life is boring and TV is not. So can we give it just a little suspension of disbelief, pretty please?