That was a great set-up for maybe the lamest pun in the world.
Now I remember the scene from last episode when Walt is sitting in his backyard with no plan at all and from where he was sitting he saw the plant and that’s how it all started.
He did however had to improvise with Gus’ car and then with Salamanca.
And that old lady saying “Hi” to him in the most suspenseful moment… wow… just wow!!!
I take it you didn’t read the last episode’s thread, where this was discussed.
Hank still has people breaking into his house to kill him. With Gus dead and the resulting power vacuum I wonder if that will go away or accelerate.
And then there’s Mike- will he seek revenge for Gus (they weren’t exactly friends) or just retire?
I was expecting a sketch of Walt to appear on the TV news story as the suspicious character seen around the time of the bombing.
I think you’re thinking of Deus Ex Machina, but I don’t think that happened in any of the scenes here. In fact, I’m pretty sure Vince and the writers are pretty about that kind of thing. A bit contrived maybe (and it has to be, it’s a fictional story that has to be entertaining) but it’s not that Spiderman suddenly showed up and killed Gus.
Where those Gus’ people? I was under the impression that those were DEA or FBI guys trying to pick him up. I’ll have to check back. I’m almost positive that Saul told Jesse that the FBI was looking for his partner.
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Did the media mention anyone seeing someone suspicious? I don’t remember hearing anything about that. It would be kind of important since Walt did come and go from the front door (I assume) and the old lady next door saw him hiding. Also, in theory there should be some sort of check in log and the front desk.
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No, they didn’t.
So how did Jesse get Saul on the phone when he was on the lam?
Dammit, I knew I had a big question. He had the police call him. I wonder if they have other ways of persuading honey tits (I honestly don’t know what her name is) to dig up the number.
She was probably afraid of getting in trouble for not providing it to the police. Quite plausible to me, a lot of people give information to the police even in cases where it’s against their best interest.
Because Walt paid Honey Tits $25K to get ahold of Saul and come out from hiding.
And I don’t think the finale was contrived at all. Break it down:
Walt the Mad Chemical Genius sees the Lilly of the VAlley and concocts the poison Brock plan, knowing that Jesse, who cares deeply, would come to him. In the best acting job Walt’s managed so far, he convinced Jesse it was Gus, and since Gus does have a past of using children and then lettingthem die, he seels Jesse. Jesse is now back on Team Walt.
The car bomb would have worked just fine, but Jesse let something slip (in his tone, manner, whatever) and Gus’ danger-sense started tingling. No car bomb for Gus.
Jesse and Saul are talking and Saul relates how Jesse went with Gus so see Salamanca at the nursing home. Walt get’s his big idea. He figures (correctly) that Gus has someone keeping an eye on the DEA, so he sells Salamance on his idea, and the old geezer goes down to the DEA, and tells them to “Suck My…”.
This brings out Gus, who can’t afford to let Salamanca talk, as Walt well knows. Bada-bing-bada-boom, no more Gus.
So where’s Mike? The writers must have a reason for leaving him out.
That scene in the nursing home was great. When Gus walked out of the room, I thought, “How could he survive that?” And then they switched to the other shot, and then I thought he was a terminator. Until he fell over dead.
Has he been back from Mexico yet? How long has it been since Gus and Jesse got back?
Also, they never mention the cigarette thing again.
And did anyone else actually yell at the screen for Marie to shut the fuck up. At the very least I was kind of hoping Hank would. I kind of liked his pretending not to listen thing.
So this is all neatly tied up: Gus is dead, so the DEA will know he was tied to the cartel, but the laundry has gone up in flames, so there is no evidence there to tie Jesse and Walt to Gus. The DEA is satisfied that Heisenberg is dead; Gus and Jesse are safe from prosecution for now.
So what happens next? Mike has yet to reappear. He’s a hired gun and his employer is dead: does he tell Walt that Walt can either pay him or he’ll go work for the cartel in Mexico, in which case Walt is a dead man? What about Gus’s powerful friends in Chile? Will they come looking for whoever killed Gus? The superlab is gone, so Walt would have a tough time taking over the operation with no product to sell. He’s suddenly become just a citizen with not much money. Is there another RV in his future?
I said in last week’s thread how I didn’t think it was Walt, since it’s such a convoluted plan. And he must have gotten Saul to help him, since I don’t know how else he got the ricin cigarette away from Jesse, and I still don’t see how he got Saul to help out with poisoning a kid. But maybe Walt convinced Saul that it wasn’t necessarily deadly, and that the kid would only get enough to make him seriously sick but not kill him.
I guess I can go along with it, since we’ve seen Walt carry out many plans through the seasons, and some of them failed spectacularly, and just this was one that mostly succeeded.
Also I had thought that Walt hadn’t gone to the level of risking the lives of innocents, but showing him getting his old lady neighbor to check out his house shows what he thinks of risking other people’s lives.
So while I wish a little bit they showed more of how Walt carried out his plan, I otherwise thought it was a great episode. I liked that it was Gus’s desire for revenge on Hector that was his downfall. I also liked that Gus realized it was a trap, but he realized it a little too late.
Also Jesse broke my heart again, when he told Walt that it wasn’t ricin, but wanted reassurance that Gus still had to die. Jesse is a mostly good person, just dragged through such horrible things. I know the show has to end badly for Walt, but I hope Jesse ends up okay.
I also can’t wait until next season. Obviously the DEA will be investigating the shit out of Gus Fring and the laundry. When Walt was shown dropping the gun, I wondered if it will somehow survive with Walt’s fingerprints on it. (Well first I thought it seemed like bad gun safety to drop a gun on a floor.)
Am I the only one who thinks “Face Off” was a double entendre - Walt and Gus face off, and Gus has 1/2 his face blown off?
Now that it’s revealed that Walt poisoned Brock with the Lilly of the Valley, I have to believe Walt swiped the ricin from Jesse.
We didn’t see how Walt got to Brock, so in the same manner we wouldn’t see Walt snag the ricin.
He was bumming cigarettes from Jesse after all.
And I just have to add: Holy fucking shit Gus’s death scene was awesomely disturbing. I especially love how the writers worked that damn bell we’ve been hearing since season 2 as the actual detonator.
I have no idea what’s in store for season 6. This pretty much cleans up all loose ends (besides Mike & Ted). Unless Hank finally catches on to Walt, and the final struggle is the DEA themselves.
Nice season finale. Things ended up as I expected and I pretty much guessed right about what happened in the previous episode. Walter was responsible for Brock getting sick and he totally manipulated Jesse to get to Gus. They sort of telegraphed that Hector would be instrumental in this finale since the first scene they showed was the old scene of Gus rubbing it in to Hector. At least Gus died in a very memorable way (and of course the episode title had a double meaning)! The only suspense for me now is what the hell will they do for next season? Can they have Walter cooking again? He still has the cancer and he still wants to provide for his family before he’s gone. I guess the remaining conflicts are: Hank realizing Walter is Heisenberg, Jesse finding out that Walter is keeping a lot of secrets from him, and Skyler dealing with a bad ass husband.
What’s Walt’s body count now?
He killed Molina in the basement with a bike lock, the two drug dealers (one with his car and one with a gun IIRC), tonight he killed the unnamed henchman. He ordered the killing of Gale (not sure if that would get a conviction since he didn’t kill him personally or coerce Jesse into doing it and in a very convoluted way it was an act of self defense) and he (chemically) engineered the killing of Gus.
So that’s at least 4 that he’s killed himself, 1 for which he would be guilty of conspiracy and however the wheelchair bomb would be counted (accessory, conspiracy, or outright murder depending on how you count it). Am I missing any?
An argument could be made for Jane but there’s no proof she’d have lived if he’d intervened.
Possibly worth it’s own thread but I’ll just put it here: do you think that Walt has changed from a good person to a bad person, or do you think the remorseless self absorbed person was always his real self? To use Bill’s Clark Kent/Superman analogy from KILL BILL, was the mild mannered chemistry professor and family man the person or the disguise?
Okay, watching the scene with Jesse and Saul in the holding cell
Saul says to Jesse: “Ya know, the the FBI is gonna show up on this ricin thing and then you’re in it for the duration. Ya know, you’re a lot safer in here. They just tried to get your partner in his own home”
So, if Saul was implying that it was the FBI in the White’s house that would be a “big deal” since it would likely mean they have warrants and reasonable cause and they’re on to him. However, since Saul said “your partner” I assume those were some of Gus’ goons trying to pick him up. Also, I suppose that makes more sense. It’s not like you’re going to be safer from the FBI in a police holding room and if the FBI was onto Walt, I’m pretty sure they would have done more then make a vague implication about it.