You, sir, are a master.
Yeah, the cellphone call to Hank was necessary, but it also will raise a lot of questions in Hank’s mind. (Hank is NOT a dummy, after all.)
First, how Jesse know Hank’s cellphone #?
Second, how did Jesse know he had a wife named Marie?
Answer to both: Jesse has no way of knowing these things, unless he found them out from the one link that he has with Hank, and that leads Hank right back to Walt.
Can someone explain this scenario to me…?
Walt speeds into the junkyard/mechanic’s shop in his own car, right next to the RV.
The mechanic says “I know a guy”
Cut to a scene where Walt is paying The Guy
Walt asks The Guy to get him a cab, because “obviously” he needs a ride
Jesse comes speeding into the junkyard/mechanic’s shop.
Walt and Jesse are both in the RV, in the junkyard/mechanic’s shop.
When Hank comes, The Guy is the owner of the junkyard/mechanic’s shop.
Hank speeds out of the junkyard/mechanic’s shop.
The RV gets crushed…in the junkyard/mechanic’s shop?
I think I’m missing something. Why did Walt need a cab? Why didn’t Hank see Walt’s car? Did the RV get moved? If it did, how? Wasn’t it not running? And how did Jesse find it, since he left the house to go to the junkyard/mechanic’s shop.
I don’t always have an eye for detail, so I figure I missed something.
Does Hank really think that this punk Pinkman and his petty criminal friends are the top of the food chain of this whole meth thing? I wouldn’t think Hank would be so intense about this case if he just thought it was Jesse. He probably thinks Jesse has a lot of “people” above him, who can easily find out details of the DEA agents’ lives.
To put it another way…I don’t see Hank thinking the phone call was “from” Jesse. More like from the people Jesse works for.
Because the junkyard and the mechanic’s shop were two separate locations.
So the sequence was this:
–Walt drove his own car to the mechanic’s shop.
–Walt drove the RV to the junkyard, leaving his car at the mechanic’s.
–Walt asked for the cab to go back to the mechanic’s and get his car.
–Walt gets trapped in the RV by Hank at the junkyard, where the RV eventually gets crushed.
K. So Jesse went from the mechanic’s shop to the junkyard, and we’re to assume someone told him where it was?
You know what? Now I remember Jesse telling Badger that he better find out where Walt was taking it, as he sped away from his house with the phone up to his ear.
So…wish I would have remembered that 2 minutes after it happened, when Walt asked for a cab. Instead of 2 hours after I watched the episode and wrote my above post. :smack:
Don’t feel bad. I’ve seen that question asked on every BB discussion thread I’ve seen. It should have been made clearer on the show.
And how would Jesse know the identity of the agent banging on the RV door so as to convey that information to the higher-ups? He wouldn’t.
I agree with Frostillicus. (Ahem. See my post #13.) Hank should be able to make the connection to Walt (who is - hmmmmmm - a chemistry teacher with an expensive medical problem - hmmmmmm).
Hank arrested Jesse last season for whatever, what’s to say Jesse can’t remember who he was, what his name was, i.e. DEA Agent Shrader, or Agent Hank Shrader badge number 1129 or whatever. It’s not like he’ll forget being hauled in for questioning. He is a young guy with a cell phone, perhaps he’s the one who made the call out for info on him and got someone to make the fake call.
We can assume Hank can connect the dots with Walt but we can’t forget that Jesse has met Hank before and Hank could easily be wondering how could Jesse know so much, unless he’s actually the meth cooker Heisenberg himself doing his due diligence on his supposed enemy the DEA.
That was it. I loved the way he made it his own with ‘Bitch!’
A pity that all the nudity on the show is Walt’s when Jesse’s right there.
Did anybody get how much Walt paid ‘The Guy’ to dispose of the RV? He was counting out bills and saying “98…99… and 100”. There’s no way anybody is going to do that for $100, but otoh $100,000 seems a bit absurd- I guess $10,000 in one hundred $100 bills? Admittedly I’ve never priced having a vehicle composted so I’ve no idea how much it would go for.
Of course it seemed to me the best course would be to take it out to the desert with a ride following (and in the desert it should be easy to be sure you’re not followed) and burn the mo-fo.
You misspelled “Hank’s wife.” 
You’re assuming that the only way that someone could have found out that Hank was there was through Jesse or Walt.
He called his office to arrange the warrant!
If there were a mole in his office who was working for interests allied with Jesse and/or Heisenberg, he could have easily arranged that phone call to Hank.
Unless the connection is somehow made obvious to him, it’s going to take him a while to connect the dots. Put yourself in Hank’s shoes–what’s more plausible? His brother-in-law is Heisenberg or a mole in his office? A mole, of course. According to Occam’s razor, there are many possible scenarios that are way more likely than “Walt is Heisenberg.”
It’s like a jigsaw puzzle–if you have the pieces, and you can see the picture on the cover of the box, it’s not that hard to put the pieces together. If you can’t see the picture, it’s a lot more difficult. We can see the picture on the box. Hank can’t.
And for what it’s worth–the fact that someone knew Hank’s cell number and wife’s name will absolutely NOT point him towards Walt. That information is not exactly difficult to come by.
Your analysis is fine, Green Bean, for a real life version of what’s going on in this show. But you have to keep in mind one of Ebert’s rules (I forget exactly how it’s worded) for dramas in movies and TV: unless a character has been introduced to the audience he or she cannot participate in the events of the show. That applies even to those last man interviewed, last witness called, and last person we see before the crime is solved.
In other words, for the benefit of the audience, the only likely sources for Hank’s wife’s name being available to the “prank caller” are people we have seen in the show. That means anybody in the cast, including the dazzling duo of doom, but not just some random person going through the phone book or Googling Hank’s family online.
However, since your logic is sound, maybe these writers will reject Ebert’s rule just to surprise us. My bet is that the realization by Hank that Walt’s involved won’t take too many sidetracks. He’ll get there in no more than three steps.
I would like to head over to the Lost writers and staple Ebert’s rule to their foreheads.
If I’m Hank, that might occur to me. But what will also occur to me is the connection between Walt and Jesse. And it will occur to me that there might be more to that connection than I had originally suspected.
Hank is no idiot.
I just hope the writers don’t solve Walt’s developing problem by having the Mexican cousins whack Hank. That would be a cop-out (so to speak), and would rob us of the most interesting character on the show. (To me, anyway.) I don’t think the writers will go that route.
Just to be sure I wasn’t misquoting Ebert, I located The Law of Economy of Characters which says:
I admit that my statement of this rule is more a corollary than the rule itself, but I do think the main issue is in line with what I said earlier. There may be an even closer Ebert version, but I quit looking for it after locating this one.
Zeldar–I don’t think what I said violate’s Ebert’s rule. I’m suggesting that from Hank’s perspective, the fact that there are so many other plausible explanations may further delay his making the connection between Walt, Jesse, and Heisenberg. And you don’t need to “introduce outside characters” for Hank to explore these other options. It can be done using characters/locations that are already in the show.
Let’s say next episode, Hank is trying to figure out where the call came from, and thinks “hey, maybe a mole!” He could speak to Gomey, his boss, his assistant, etc. We’ve been in the office many times and have seen that there are many people working there.
I think what I’m getting at is this–people here and elsewhere are talking as if Hank figuring it all out must be imminent. I don’t think it has to be. The writers can plausibly keep Hank comfortably occupied by chasing down reasonable, but bad, leads for a few more episodes, delaying his discovery of the Walt connection and allowing more time for the Gus situation to develop.
Agreed.
I think the only thing that would lead Hank to suspect Walt is the fact that he just happened to have called Walt to ask about Jesse a couple hours before, so Walt in connection to Jesse might be on his mind.
I think ultimately there are too many other reasonable possibilities for Hank to be able to smash through his wall of denial that keeps Walt in a safe little box. As far as Hank is concerned, Walt is the ultimate milquetoast.
I think Saul needs a bigger cut. 5% doesn’t cover the risks he is taking. (Was it 5%?)
For that to work, you have to make Hank kind of stupid. And I don’t think Hank is stupid.
He knows there’s a connection between Jesse and Walt. The most obvious explanation is that Walt gave Jesse the personal info. Hank would have to be pretty dense not to see that right away.