Breaking Bad 4/25/10 "Sunset" OPEN SPOILERS

Yeah, I’m actually with you on that one. The second Jesse was giving out orders to get his drug distribution going, and he told badger to get the RV in ship shape… I thought: “Oh man this is perfect, badger is going to drive the RV and get busted.” But the way it turned out is even better.

Here’s a link where you get to play Hank Schraeder interrogating a bad guy.

Yeah, totally! I love that you can’t be sure that they won’t kill of a main character just because he needed killin’.

Sorry, but you’re wrong. Gus NEEDS someone to know how Walt does things because it’s almost certain that Walt is going to be dead within 3 months. Why would a savvy businessman like Gus let the method and the oodles of cash that come with it die with Walt?

Definitely not a mistake in the plot. I took it as yet another display of Walt and Jesse’s relative incompetence as criminals.

Another example from this episode–Saul asking “didn’t you have a contingency plan for this sort of thing?” Nope. It never occurred to Walt and Jesse that they should have a way to get rid of the RV lined up. Because they don’t know what the heck they’re doing.

But the people upthread were suggesting that the lab assistant was a bit too nice, questioning too much, as if he was specifically trying to steal Walt’s secret. That doesn’t track with me. Gus offered Walt a 3 month deal, not an indefinite deal, so it seems logical to conclude that the plan from the start is to basically pay Walt for 3 months of service and his formula. The lab assistance has a masters in chemistry, so there’s no way for Walt to hide the formula as they spend 3 months doing it over and over again. It doesn’t seem like there’s anything underhanded going on here (except if Gus leads the brothers to killing Walt after 3 months) - everyone seems to understand the purpose of the 3 month deal.

I’m guessing the lab assistant left academia for more reasons than “the lab is magic but publish or perish is evil!”. I’m guessing it’s something like manslaughter or child pornography or some other felony that destroyed his career, made him absolutely unemployable and completely subservient to Gus.

Whatever else will turn up about him, Gus flatly has the stones. He stood down two psychopaths without so much as a pen knife. “One thing I’ll say for him/[Gustavo] is cool.”

Sampiro, meth can be smoked, they have shown it being smoked on several occasions also.

I guarantee Walt doesn’t know about this and that it will cause conflict later on, more of his pride in his work getting in the way.

Actually, this just strikes me as another example of Walt’s naïveté as a criminal.

He senses that he has some proprietary interest in his formula, yet he’s going to let someone look over his shoulder as he makes the meth.

And does he not realize that as soon as he gives up the formula and leaves the lab he becomes more of a liability than an asset? Indeed, as long as he walks the streets after that, he is nothing but a potential competitor and potential squealer.

I pretty much realized instantly that the guy’s “pet project” was coffee. If I wasn’t watching it so late at night, I might have made myself a cup. :slight_smile:

No way. How does dealing drugs work in the street? You make an offer that’s short term. You wouldn’t say “Here, try this drug until you get hooked on it, and then continue taking it the rest of your life.” I think the same logic applies here. Gus hooked Walt in for a 3 month deal. In the mean time he’s going to find someone who can replicate it, or hook Walt into doing more. But I think there’s NO WAY Gus isn’t looking WAY beyond the three month window. Which pretty much guarantees that Walt’s lab assistant is going to die. :dubious: Not only that, the lab assistant was saying exactly what Walt needed to hear; because it’s basically the same thing that Walt told Gus. I think it’s all a big setup, and the lab assistant is going to turn out to be evil.

So with the episode title of “Sunset,” are we about to enter the dark night of Breaking Bad?

Disagree. Even if they are incompetent as criminals, they (or at the very least, Walt) would know enough not to hang around when Hank specifically said he’d have people coming, not to mention the fact that Walt knew the phone call was a lie and Hank could return any time. Either it was a plot hole or the RV was destroyed at a different site.

I thought the title merely referred to when Gus said he’d meet with the cousins. It could have more significance, but that’s the the way I read it.

Yes, that’s the most literal meaning. But perhaps not the only one.

I thought it was plot hole at first, but then I guess I reasoned it away by thinking that it’s a junkyard, there are any number of great places they could hide or take off out the back if someone showed up. At the least, if it wasn’t a totally different site, the compactor was most certainly somewhere within the bowels of the junkyard, so they wouldn’t really be trapped out in the front driveway any more, and any one coming with a warrant for the RV would probably have no idea where to go. And the evidence is essentially gone anyway. I assumed that Walt would want to see it destroyed himself, to reduce loose ends, and wherever it happened felt like a safer location to him than out in the main driveway or wherever they were before. Also, since Hank thought he was dealing with just Jesse, he probably wouldn’t be expected to call out a SWAT team and helicopters – Walt & Jesse and the junkyard Constitutional scholar expected at most probably just another guy in a truck with a piece of paper.

I thought it was the time that Skyler was going to go fuck Ted. (I guess IFT got that out of their system in titles though.)

Unless at some point he’s used as bait to bring Walt into line.

That was my impression.

Okay, so we have several theories of why Walt stood there and watched the RV get crushed–

–Walt wanted to make ensure it was destroyed.

–Walt is an incompetent criminal.

–It was destroyed at a different location.

–It was relatively safe to stay even if it was destroyed at the same junkyard.

Or any combination of the above.

Did I miss any?

-It wasn’t Walt but his twin brother, Hal, who just moved to town to get away from his five meth dealing sons and shrew wife and was there looking for a job.

-It wasn’t really an RV being crushed, it was a Korean woman’s baby and he was altering memories to deal with it.
A favorite moment from that night (I’m paraphrasing so it may not be exact):

Walt: Tell him if he hasn’t got a warrant to leave your property.
Jesse: So if you haven’t got a warrant leave my property! [pause] Bitch!

Did anybody else think Hank was going to keel over of a heart attack in the hospital last night? He looked on the verge of collapsing.

It’s been all peaches and sunshine so far.

He look pissed enough to kill someone using only his mind, if you mean after the phone call with Marie.

I think it was, “This is my own private domicile, and I will not be harrassed. BITCH!” And it was hilarious and wonderful. I love Jesse so much.

Another excellent moment was Walt finding the bag of Funyuns in the RV, and the look on his face as he remembered the fun times he and Jesse shared stranded in the middle of the desert (the best episode ever).

I always think Hank’s about to have a heart attack. I think they have him wearing his clothing a size or two too small to emphasize his unhealthy physique, and I imagine they’ll write him a heart attack at some point.

I, too, will miss the RV. TV magic happens when Walt and Jesse are in there together.