Breaking Bad 5.14 "Ozymandias" 9/15/13

Agreed.

I’m leaning towards some combination of 1 and 3. We’ve see Walt qo out of his way to make an impression at Denny’s, while wearing clothes very much like Todd’s. And we’ve seen him buy a weapon like one that we’ve seen one of Todd’s cohorts use. My guess is whatever he’s planning to do with the M-60, he’s planning to make it look to the Feds like he was on Jack’s crew. He may even be planning to be gunned down by the Feds after he takes out Jack himself.

Which should give us one or two good Canadian memes.

I think we deserve better. And trust me. I’m waaay over myself. I guess I don’t know anything about fire stations. What about Police Stations? Think you could sneak in an electromagnet? I’m just making the point that sometimes we deserve better. When writers treat us like idiots, and we don’t call them on it, well…

That’s comforting. Our fire station is just a block or so away from the store where I buy food. The same store that is ringed with security camera and was able to produce video of a parking lot fight within minutes of the police arriving. But I live in a town with one stoplight, not the big thriving metropolis of ABQ.

By the way, Walt’s ex-BIL is dead! :smiley:

Also, I’m posting here because there isn’t anything good on TV (watched all the Moto GP already) and there aren’t any current “auto repair” threads. :smiley:

Ok, I honestly don’t know much about them, but that all makes sense.

I do think they respect Walt to a certain degree. They wouldn’t hesitate to kill him if he became a threat, but they’re not at that point now.

That’s interesting to hear, I was wondering about it. I had Vince Gilligan say previously about the flash-forward about one of the things they have to write around is hair growth, so seeing Walt with his previous amount of hair made me wonder.

That must have been weird for Cranston and Paul. To have their characters change so much over 6 years, then at the very end have to act how they were at the beginning.

Security cameras prevent you from walking through open doors? Man, those new models are slick.

Sure he has. He hesitated before killing Krazy-8. He tried to get out of the business a few times. He hesitated plenty before ordering the hit on Jesse. He rejected the idea of killing Hank when Saul brought it up and tried to save him in the desert. Now, if Walt decides he needs to do something - including killing someone or poisoning a child - he doesn’t hesitate. If Walt wants something it is obviously justified: he’s lost the ability to tell the difference between right and wrong and his own desires.

Yep! Mostly, I believe, due to hair requirements.

I’m pretty sure stoplight was quoting someone else there, and that person was talking about Todd, not Walt. Damn formatting issues!

I hope it goes down something like this:

TODD & CREW: It needs to be blue. Why isn’t it blue?

JESSE: You want the blue color? You didn’t leave out the red phosphorous step, did you? Jesus, don’t you watch 60 Minutes? Everybody knows you need red phosphorous to cook meth. Get me some road flares and some boiling water. And hand me that mask, bitch. No, you guys don’t need one—just the guy right next to it does…

Ack, right you are. He’s quoting obfusciatrist discussing Todd.

I still have in my mind the way Walt started sobbing when he said that he had taken out Hank. You could see that his heart was completely broken over what had happened. He really did love Hank.

It’s not a ten year old article, in fact the research supports the treatment in 2005 and 2006

It struck me that it would be the type of science that would attract Walt to take a calculated risk. If it didn’t work he’s dead anyway.

I’m surprised that nobody’s mentioned the obvious parallels between the scene in which Walt collapses to the ground sobbing and the poolside scene of Max Arciniega’s murder. In both cases, the protagonists’ lives were spared because they held a position of minor entitlement in another person’s mind.

In the last thread Martian Bigfoot linked to an article from 2003 about ricin and cancer. I’m pretty sure he was kidding, and yes, that was 10 years old. There have been studies where compounds based on ricin were used to treat cancer, but the treatment wasn’t just eating a bunch of ricin.

Well, in any case Gilligan has said he didn’t know what had happened when he first showed that flashforward.

Not always. Remember in the scene when Victor was killed? Walt babbled on and on to no good effect. He also was not very politic in the way he talked to Gus when taken out in the desert and threatened.

Usually love that guy (his addled veteran with a puppet was the most brilliant thing ever), but he is off on this one. Walt has been shown cradling Holly, feeding her, putting her to sleep, etc. many, many times. Sometimes it has been to creepy effect, like when he was holding her and watching Scarface, but he clearly is crazy about her and has been shown holding her much more than was strictly necessary for the plot especially given the way TV babies are often left off as afterthoughts.

I have seen this question raised in multiple places, and I wonder if any of them are fathers (or parents, period). I have four kids and am a doting father, and it seems very straightforward to me: he could not bear the thought of never seeing her again. Of losing his entire family forever. He certainly could not drag the other two with him, so Holly was the best he could do at that moment.

So did I. Or an insult to the show. But I don’t see how it could be seen as an insult to the poster.

Wait a sec. I love this show, consider it the best ever–but in case I comment in some other thread in the future on a show I don’t like: are we only allowed to say positive comments about TV shows here?

Okay, I had thought of posting in one of the Under the Dome threads, but I guess I can’t because I find that so completely risible and worth discussing only to mock. (And contra Marley’s POV, I do think it can be fun to just shred on a show you hate-watch, as do lots of other folks if you’ve ever visited TwoP.) Good to know!

There’s a difference between snarking on a show when the general tone of the thread is snarky, and just constantly trying to show up in threads to tell people how dumb something they hold in high regard is.

And also a difference between “hey, I know you guys all like this show, but here are 5 reasons I think it’s not actually all that good…” vs “hey, I know you guys all like this show, but you’re wrong it’s the suxxors”.

One of my favorite moments was when Walt got back in his car after Jack and co let him go, looked at himself in the rearview mirror, then turned the mirror away.

My prediction is that Walt returns b/c he finds out that Jesse is still alive b/c there’s more of his high quality blue Meth out there.

Worst ending suggestion: Walt from a distance with his M60 guns down Todd, Uncle Jack, Lydia, Jesse, et al, then turns to the camera and smiles and says “I guess you could say I’m…Breaking Bad.” Credits.

According to the podcast, Cranston shaved the beard and they added a wig. Vince Gilligan actually made it a point to praise the hair and makeup folks for the job they did with that.

ETA: They also amusedly note that the script specifically had Jesse hitting a rock with a stick in the background and thoroughly enjoying himself with that little diversion. Ah, the innocent early days of Breaking Bad :D.

Or a bunch of teenagers are (I don’t know what word to use to describe this so) excited to know one of the nations biggest drug dealers lived in their neighborhood, so they spraypainted his drug nickname on the wall to let people know Heisenberg used to live there.