Breaking Bad 5.14 "Ozymandias" 9/15/13

The last scene needs to be Huell, played by Dave Chappelle, come out of the hotel finally having had enough of just sitting there.

Dave Chappelle with a weird headpiece to make his skull look all distorted. Am I the only one who thinks Huell was delivered using some huge-ass forceps?

Agent What’s-his-name was watching Huell. Either he let Huell go at some point, or Huell ate him and escaped.

Huell can skeletonize a DEA agent in under ten minutes.

I thought there was another DEA agent watching him.

If he can catch the agent first, that is.

Huell will see on TV that Hank and Gomie are missing and presumed dead, and that Walt is the primary suspect. He’ll start blubbering like a little bitch to the guy who is guarding him, and the agent will call the office to find out what the fuck is really going on.

The “other DEA” agent was a ruse by Hank and Gomez to make Huell think shit was really going down the way they claimed it was, when we really know that those two were all on their own with this investigation. There was no agent there, I thought this was obvious.

No, I thought Gomez said to Hank, “[Whoever] is watching Huell. He knows enough not to ask why.” So I don’t think the other agent was imaginary.

Yeah, I don’t think I imagined someone leaving the room when Hank & Gomie showed up. But, then again, I’ve imagined worse in my head.

That’s because it was never about the money as money, or, indeed, he would have quit after $737,000. The show has spent a lot of time explaining why he didn’t quit.

There’s a large difference between slowly building an operation into an empire, like Walt or billionaires do, and pulling someone else’s money out of a hole in the ground through happenstance. The latter can happen to anyone, the former requires a certain personality type. If the show’s minor thug characters are empire builders too, then all the show’s work crafting Walt and Gus’ characters was for naught.

Yeah, I mean, look no further than lottery winners to see what happens when people suddenly come into huge amounts of money. Turning that fortune into a larger fortune almost never happens.

In the show’s terms, building an empire and making a shitload of money aren’t the same thing. Walt wanted people to know he was the best and he wanted them to know the name Heisenberg. Jack’s catchphrase is “Let’s make some money” and they’re happy to sell someone else’s product. The Aryan Brotherhood may not quit with $70 million, but that doesn’t mean they have the same motives Walt does. And Gus treated his operation as a business, not an empire. You can call his business an empire because it was very large and successful, but Gus didn’t care about having a reputation beyond its effect on his business. And unlike Walt, Gus grasped the fact that if you are running a criminal operation, being famous really isn’t a good thing.

Yeah, I assumed that was part of the ruse. The basic assumption on every other message board I’ve seen is that Huell is stranded.

But why would Gomez lie to Hank about Huell being guarded?

Keep in mind that the safe room had already been established and Huell was already sitting in there when Gomez and Hank showed up. So there has to be a third agent involved to have done that part of the job. I assumed that’s who Gomez was talking about - a trusted fellow agent who performed a task with no questions asked.

Wanna hear something funny? I was watching the episode and it was near the end, so I started reading this thread (which usually starts off with speculation and not spoilers). But I hadn’t gotten to the phone call part yet, and when I did I simultaneously came upon kunilou’s post #45 where the phone call is explained…

So basically, I never got to have an initial reaction to the phone call. I spoilered it for myself as it unfolded:) Then again I’ll never be able to say that I missed that important plot point, either!

Yep - 70 million won’t last long with these guys. That’s why they need somebody to keep cooking for them. They’ve essentially hijacked an empire and want it to run to keep the cash flowing in. But they lack the business sense of Gus, and the lack the quality demands of Walt. Both of which can hinder long term success.

There was definitely a third agent. Hank and Gomez mention him when they are at Hank’s house, shortly before preparing a package of brains for its close-up. Then later, at the safe house, there is a person (presumably the same agent) who leaves the room while Hank and Gomez question Huell.

The implication is clearly that this third agent was watching Huell at the safe house while the rest of the events occurred. As I mentioned in a previous thread, I actually think this is a weak plot point. Huell works for a criminal lawyer. Surely Saul has made it clear that the very first thing his minions should do when it comes to close encounters with law enforcement is to call him. Note that at the time he is picked up, Huell has not yet had the conversation with Hank and Gomez about how Saul and Walt are out to get him.

Note that Hank and Gomez confiscated Huell’s phone as soon as they picked him up. The excuse, as I remember, was so that Walt wouldn’t be able to track Huell.

I’m so confused. We actually saw the agent who is babysitting Huell, yet people are seriously debating whether he is stranded all alone?

I CONCEDE THE POINT.
ok, carry on now.