Breaking - The Queen is unwell (has died): 8 Sep 2022

Canada has just announced a federal holiday for Sept 19. This is only for Federal employees, but Provinces may follow suit in the next while.

This was discussed after Diana’s death, but her family was opposed, so nothing came of it.

Huh, never heard they were against it. Thanks.

News articles in Canada have certainly gotten up to speed with new terminology:

Ian McLeod, of the Department of Justice, said in an email Monday that Dupre’s extradition hearing is scheduled for Sept. 27 in the Court of King’s Bench in Edmonton.

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The President of Latvia’s motorcade cut me off on the 427 on the way to work once. I wonder how she’s doing…

My husband has visited England 3 times.
The first time, August 1991, he was on his own, and the coup that was the beginning of the end of the Soviet Union happened.
The 2nd time, August 1997, we were together, and Princess Diana died a few hours after we left.
Before the 3rd time, August 2022, we joked about there being another big event. 2 weeks after our return, nothing had happened so we thought the streak was broken. Then Queen Elizabeth died. . .

Who knows what will happen if we go back again?

:thinking: How about a nice trip to Florida?

LOL, we’ve had mixed results with Florida. Some trips have been uneventful, while on one we had a minor train fire and on another we had to drive fast to get away from a hurricane.

Someone asked us to go back to England soon because they want King William instead of King Charles.

Watching the funeral procession, it very weird to see Anne and Edward in uniform and Andrew and Harry in civilian dress. I understand why neither is wearing it, but both of them actually served and it’s not as costume like it’s for Edward and Anne.

I’m watching the procession and it’s interesting. A couple of the horses seem to be a little frisky, with one attempting to rear a couple of times. And people are applauding as the procession passes, which seems wrong to me.

wouldn’t andrew and harry be able to wear the last serving uniform that they had during service? i understand that the ceremonials are not theirs, but they should be able to wear what they wore in service.

I suspect it’s more a matter of their standing (or lack thereof) as active members of the royal family (Harry by choice, Andrew having had privileges removed by Elizabeth in the wake of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal).

Strictly speaking since neither was cashiered and were released from service honourably, yes.
But the problem is the current predicament they both find themselves in WRT to no longer being active working royals. For very different reasons, but with identical outcomes.

I suspect that King Charles III will eventually restore both to some sort of status after a decent interval, cynically (especially as far as Andrew is concerned) once the matter has receded from the front of the public mind,

It was impressive watching the procession this morning. Nobody else can put on a ceremony like the British do. I felt bad for the guys carrying the casket on their shoulders, that’s got to get uncomfortable after a few minutes.

Based on what I saw in a movie once, that’s the British way pallbearers carry the coffin, which is, I think, different from the American approach, which is to grab the handles or grab bar on the side of the coffin and to hold it at waist level.

(Sort of like how someone noted upthread the hearses used in the UK and elsewhere were different from the American type.)

You are welcome. The whole show is nice, if you are into gardens or royalty or both. It’s on the PBS app.

BTW, don’t feel bad for them. I’m sure they’ve worked out to be fit enough to do it, and have practiced every step (probably with a practice coffin). And more importantly, this is a huge honor and something they will remember for the rest of their lives.

I’m sure you’re right but still I got a little nervous with that crown looking so precarious on that pillow on top of the casket.

My understanding is that the major conundrum is that Harry does not have a uniform he could wear. He didn’t ever attain a senior enough rank to wear a uniform in retirement (or perhaps it’s that he resigned his commission rather than serving long enough to properly retire), and he later surrendered all honorary positions that come with a uniform. Andrew does have a uniform to wear; while he surrendered his honorary appointments, he is still substantively a Vice Admiral as a result of a combination of his service and subsequent honorary promotions after his retirement. So the options are both of them in civilian dress or only Andrew in a uniform, and the latter option would be much more optically inconvenient than what was seen today.

I was a pallbearer for my 90±year-old grandmother. With the weight split between 8 pallbearers, it wasn’t really very heavy. But it was a bit awkward. I wonder if the soldiers rehearsed a bit, before the ceremony, to make sure that everybody would remain in lockstep when they had to make a turn.