Breaking - The Queen is unwell (has died): 8 Sep 2022

I think they’re just made like that, with a screw connection so they can be easily disassembled for transportation.

Really? Are we still doing this to women? Care to comment about Biden’s hairline or Andrew’s paunch?

Yes, they’re designed to be unscrewed into two halves. He’s not the only senior member of the Royal Household with one and in past centuries they all broke them at the funeral.

It was a bit disappointing that he just placed it on the coffin. It used to be that they waited until the coffin had already been lowered and they then dropped the broken bits into the grave.

Westminster - what was/is the slab on the floor with the red fringe around it? The camera never seemed to focus on it.

The road approaching Windsor looked like it was well used by horses. Some droppings appeared to be covered with sand.

The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

I found it amusing to see how everyone was taking great care to avoid stepping on it, while having no problem walking on Winston Churchill’s grave.

Also, the red fringe is poppies (artificial) - abiding symbol of WWI.

I think when nobody is singing either version, it’s just ‘the National Anthem’

The slab in front of it is not Churchill’s grave - he’s buried elsewhere (at Bladon in Oxfordshire) - just a memorial to him. In any case, the rule in Westminster Abbey is that you can walk on any of the floorslabs, whether graves or memorials, except that of the Unknown Warrior.

I remember that rule from visiting London years ago.

It’s sometimes difficult to avoid walking on someone’s grave in that place.

If a military band played the tune to "God Save the (King/Queen), the music is identical. The change would be in the lyrics (Queen/King, her/him) The military band did not include vocals. I think the NY Times author is mistaken.

Seriously? Your cite is an American paper writing about a song played without vocals. Try again.

To be fair, death is a very abstract, and yet very matter-of-fact sort of thing for kids that age. I’m guessing it was probably easier for them than their parents to keep it together.

But the whole expectation that the children and grandchildren are not going to cry or show emotion is pretty harsh IMO. I think it would go a long way to humanize the Royal Family if they actually cried or showed emotion of any sort. Maybe that’s the point- they’re not supposed to be human, but some sort of abstraction.

I think so two. There isn’t one rule for with vocal, and one for without. It certainly felt like a wistful goodbye to the Queen, and no doubt everyone in the crowd was thinking it, but that doesn’t make it so.

It’s toxic either way—being expected to show or not show emotion. Or, show some emotions and not others.

From today’s Washington Post (if you can believe what you read in an American paper):

Throngs of people crowded to view the hearse, which Elizabeth helped design so its glass windows and roof would make the coffin more visible to the public.

The difference may be that the royal hearse also has a glass roof, because, yes, in Wikipedia and elsewhere I can find photos of European hearses with glass walls.

Yes, the hearse in London and Windsor was specially-designed. The one in Scotland was a standard hearse, AFAIK, from a local funeral director, whose logo had to be removed from a window partway through the proceedings after complaints.

Actually, that article shows a glass roof on the Scottish hearse, so I’m not clear on what was custom on the royal hearse.

Ha, I noticed that at the time, and thought ‘you cheeky buggars’.