Breastfeeding, weaning, and food strike help, please.

Okay, I want my breasts back, and not for purely selfish reasons. My nipples are scraped and raw, I’m tired of toting these jiggly, leaky jugs around on my small frame, bras are miserable, and trying to produce enough milk to satisfy a twenty pound child is exhausting. I’m continually hungry and so is she, so I’m finding myself parked with a babe on the nipple as often as during the first busy month of her life. She doesn’t seem to be getting her fill and wakes 4 times each night to eat.

My fat, healthy eleven month old enthusiastically started solids at five months and was breastfeeding only three times per day until two weeks ago. She will now eat two or three bites before shoving the spoon away, will only munch a couple crackers then starts pawing at my shirt. I’m offering stage 1-3 baby food, adult table food, and she has access to a bowl of snacks all day, which she barely touches. How do I turn her back onto solids, and what did I do wrong here to trigger this food strike?

Have you discussed this with the pediatrician?

IANAD, but a mother of two. Will she take a bottle? If you’ve breast fed for 11 months, you have given her a good start, but if you can’t produce enough to satisfy her, you don’t need to feel guilty about not continuing.

A healthy child will not starve herself. If what’s available is formula and a variety of foods appropriate for her age, she will eventually take that. At this age she should not have to eat four times during the night.

The only thing I’d worry about is if she were in some way failing to thrive, pointing to some disorder or other. I’d make specific suggestions but I watch far too much “Mystery Diagnosis” on TV.

Is she getting a full feed in every time, or does she seem to be nursing only for comfort? And does she have her molars (i.e., is it possible she’s getting them now)?

I’m not a doctor, but that seems pretty normal. At least both my kids went through similar phases when they were around the same age; sometimes it had to do with teeth, sometimes because they were going for comfort, sometimes it just seemed like they did it to mess with me. Just when I thought it would never end, it did (though I’m sure that’s not helpful now).

Definitely talk with your pediatrician, though - if nothing else, it’ll make you feel like you’ve covered all your bases.

Aside from the good “see your pediatrician” advice, you could try sweetening up her food. Have tasted her food? Try adding some applesauce or other healthy sweetener.

Back in the early 1980’s we used to make an eggnog like concoction with a raw egg beaten into some warm milk and spiced with nutmeg, vanilla and, sometimes cinnamon. These days I think you could safely use Eggbeaters.

Don’t overheat in the microwave unless you want a coagulated mess.

I too far from parenthood to remember - are they still teething at 11 months? That could explain it as well.

Probably the most important thing is to not make it into a huge issue. If you do, food will be a bone of contention forever.

I’ll call her pediatrician in the morning. She’s gaining weight, has plenty of energy and hair is getting thicker and is shiny, skin looks great. I kinda think she might be working me a little. She’ll take bites of chicken, mashed potatoes, and pretty much any nibbles off our plates, but nowhere near enough to get full, and less than 1/3 of what she was eating. She will sit still an nurse until full most of the time as long as I remove distractions, but I don’t feel she’s getting the calories she was when she ate solids happily for the previous five months. Really frustrating because meals were going so well.

Teething wasn’t pleasant, but she has two bottom and four top, and no sign of any erupting teeth at the moment.

Bear in mind that they go through stages where their appetite changes. They have growth spurts. If she’s gaining weight she is getting enough to eat.

My younger was still waking in the middle of the night at the age of two and so I’d feed her. My pediatrician said there’s no way she needs more food at 2 AM. She is just looking for comfort and/or has gotten into a bad habit. We did have to finally let her cry it out and after 2 or 3 nearly sleepless nights for the whole family, it stopped.

my son pretty much weaned himself, but I weaned the girls at around your daughter’s age by offering formula in a cup (the ones with the soft sippy attachment are excellent IMO) before the breast. Then I would let them nurse as long as they wanted. They gradually lost interest, with some waxing and waning. I think this was the easiest way for all concerned, but I must add the caveat that they all got occasional supplemental or convenience feedings of formula (in bottle or cup) in addition from time to time from about age 4 months.

I wouldn’t worry too much about the food strike. Those happen from time to time, though it certainly makes sense to talk with the doctor about it.

Mine is almost 12 months and has discovered that it is more fun to throw food on the floor than eat it. She loved pancakes, eggs, cheese, banana, peaches and more just a week ago, now the only thing she’ll reliably eat is broccoli, toast with baby food spread on it and mandarin oranges. Everything else gets thrown on the floor.

It sounds like your baby is going through something, whatever it is, teething or a wonder week or something. It sounds exhausting and unpleasant to be sure. I can usually tell when mine is going through something, and not always what it is exactly. We had 3 nights last week where she simply would not stay asleep if she was alone and I had to lay with her for hours, and my little reading lamp stopped working and I was going nuts. But then it passed with (tested) patience and everything is back to homeostasis. Oh, and I don’t think you did anything wrong! We are too quick to blame ourselves. It was probably something your husband did. :wink:

This is so very, very common, that google has an autofill for 11 month old food strike. Along with suggestions for:

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You are not alone. :slight_smile:

First, look at the growth chart from the CDC. Notice that there’s a lessening of the slope indicating weight gain slows around 9-12 months. This means lots of babies in this range aren’t as hungry as they were before, because they’re not growing as quickly. This is normal and expected. She should still be gaining, but not nearly as much as she did from 0-9 months.

Also, know that American Academy of Pediatrics, the WHO and the CDC recommend that a baby’s primary source of nutrition be breastmilk for one year, with food a supplement and exploration. So you’re almost there, but not quite yet. Of course, given the excellent nutrition we can offer our infants in the US, early weaning isn’t generally too much of a problem from a growth standpoint. But I’m not sure we really have a good grasp on it from a developmental standpoint. She just may simply not be ready to give up the milk.

Are you eating with her? Babies/toddlers generally eat a little more, and make better choices, if Mom eats with them, and the same foods as them, rather than using mealtime as a time to catch up on the dishes. This allows you to model food choices (“Yum! Carrots are so yummy and orange! I love carrots. Do you love carrots?”) and it also gives you a good reason to delay nursing for a few minutes, (“We’ll nurse when Mommy’s done eating. Would you like some avocado while Mommy’s eating?”)

I hear ya about wanting your boobs back. (14 months of exclusive pumping for me. Moo.) But some little ones take weaning as a personal affront, and fear you’re rejecting them. Making food a struggle just reinforces this fear. Best game play is to just keep nursing until she’s ready to give it up. Or until you really can’t frigging stand it, and you just announce that the milk is gone, she drank it all up, and you read books with her for cuddle/security time instead. :smiley:

Four times a night, though? Nuh-uh. She needs to learn some other self soothing techniques to help her get herself back to sleep. This is just contributing to the feeding problem, most likely, as she’s not quite getting enough food during the day, and so she may indeed be a little peckish at night, then she’s not quite hungry enough during the day, and the whole cycle snowballs.

Some good strategies and suggestions for breaking this cycle here: 11 Month Old Baby Feeding & Sleep Schedule | Baby Sleep Site

Good luck. This too shall pass, I promise.

This is all far better and more detailed advice than her doctor gave me. He said “It’s just a stage.” and little more. I do plan to keep nursing for another couple months, but was happy with the 3 solid meals per day + nursing 3 or 4 times per day. She was growing like crazy and everyone was happy. I’m just exhausted with trying to make enough milk to keep a fat, fast-crawling toddler full. I spend my entire day eating, and offering her finger foods which wind up in the floor. The dog, of course, is thrilled with the manna from our benevolent dictator.

Right now she has fish, chicken, and mixed vegetables on a plate in the floor. Rather, scattered all over a clean quilt in the floor. I’ll leave those snacks there for her for an hour and a half, then I’ll call the dog. I’ll repeat with fresh snacks at dinner time. She’ll nibble a bit, but is just as likely to spit the food out instead of swallowing. You’re right, she’s a little more cooperative if we are sitting beside her eating, too, but still limits her intake to three or four bites and stops. And I don’t force it; my parents forced me to eat which led to a lifetime of rebellious and non-constructive eating habits. I refused all meat until I was pregnant with her, and still have to force animal protein in. So I’m careful to sing-song it and make it look like fun even when I’m feeling desperate and exasperated. I’d rather be playing, reading to her, rolling her ball, and helping her stand and dance than shoveling food in and exhausting my culinary skills with baby nibbles. So… she’ll outgrow this so long as I don’t pressure her? Is that the right takeaway?

For those of you who suggested self-soothing issues, what can I do to help her? She has never accepted a pacifier. I put her to bed with a small blanket and a couple soft toys and a teether, but she rarely picks up her bedtime toys. Do the electronic crib soothers/lullaby light toys work?

Some kids do great with “grazing”, and others respond better to set meal times at the table. Adults, too, for that matter. Since it looks like grazing doesn’t work well for her, maybe try fixed meal times - beginning and end. Present the food, look at her expectantly while you eat a snack, then when you’re done, clear the table. No more food until the next predetermined meal time. You’re right - don’t be upset, don’t beg or cajole or force, just present the option, provide an example and clear the table when meal time is over. That may help train her belly to expect food (ie, be hungry) at regular times, and will help socialize her to eat when the food is presented, not when she gets around to it. These “meals” may be all of 5 minutes, but getting into a routine may be what the doctor…uh…didn’t order. :wink:

Self soothing for sleep is a whole can of debate. Some parents don’t subscribe to it at all, and maintain that it’s best to have constant contact for best sleep. Some parents do a literal “cry it out” where they just ignore the baby until she exhausts herself back to sleep. I know of exactly zero research on risks or benefits of either method. It really seems to be about equal in outcome, and up to parental preference and parenting philosophy.

I’m in the middle. Here’s how I did it with my kids:
Establish a solid bedtime routine, one that’s short and simple enough that you can do it at home, at grandma’s, in a hotel room or in a tent. Wherever Baby goes, so goes the bedtime routine.
Brush teeth (soft washcloth on the gums if they’re not using a toothbrush yet).
Wash face and hands.
Read a book together.
Sing a good night song. (We used the “We love you Conrad” song from Bye, Bye Birdie, with “Caileigh” in place of “Conrad”) This song is *only *sung at bedtime.
Get kiddo into bed.
Turn on the night light.
Tuck in and kisses.
“Good night!”
Turn off room light.
Blow a kiss.
Close door.

That routine is still going strong in our house, and she’s 8. That song is like a Pavlovian switch, I swear! The first few notes and her eyes start to droop! In fact, there was a time when she was about 5 or 6 when she started asking us not to sing (parents are so embarrassing to kindergartners sometimes!) and we’d hear her singing the song to *herself *after we closed the door! :smiley:

So, then she’s going to wake up in the middle of the night. Now what? Again, here’s what we did:

Open the door, walk in quietly (do not turn on the light).
Reach into the crib, pat her on the back, pull the blanket up and whisper, “Shh…still sleepy time…”
No eye contact, no picking up, no toys, no boob. Keep it as boring as possible.
Wait until she settles and then move to the door. She will probably stir again and may cry.
Stay where you are and softly say, “Shh…you’re okay…still sleepy time.” Wait until she settles again. Scoot out the door.

This is where the cry-it-out, modified, comes in. When she started crying again, we gave it 2 minutes. 2 timed with a clock, very long minutes, standing outside her door feeling like the worst mom in the world. Then repeated the above, gong in with as little stimulation as possible and quiet soothing.

Then 5 minutes to cry. Then 10. Excruciating. (For us, not her.) If she cries again after the 10 minute round, give up for tonight and try again tomorrow. I personally think a baby crying for more than 10 minutes has gotten herself so worked up that she really can’t bring herself back to calm well.

We only made it to 10 the first night. The second night, she settled after 5. The third night, after 2. There was no fourth night, she just slept like a normal human being.

I’ve done the same with several kids of various ages youngest was 10 weeks from her due date (my daughter), oldest was 6 years old! (Older kids I do 5, 10 and 15 minute rounds.) Some I was nannying for or helping the parent with an intervention of sorts. It’s hard on the parents, I won’t lie. But the kids seem uniformly relieved.

I don’t remember having to deal with this particular travail, but I will share two things that I know of personally for weaning.

The first one I did, and it was inadvertent. I weaned my older daughter at a year. She was bottle feeding and I wanted her off the bottle at bedtime and fully on a cup. Her birthday is right around Christmas and we were spending a lot of time on the road to the city where the relatives were, about 70 miles away. For about a week, we were on the road nearly every night at bedtime. No bottle for her! When the travels were over, so was the bottle, mercifully. So we got her off it completely painlessly.

Now, I am not suggesting you replicate this by driving around for an hour and a half at bedtime — just do something to break the nursing-at-night routine. Do something completely different from what you now do. I like Why’s iron-clad bedtime routine; with my first son, Surrey With The Fringe On Top was the sleep-inducing song.

Second suggestion came from a good friend. She weaned her daughter by wearing her the fuck out.* And I mean wearing. She took her to the park every day for like a week, all afternoon long. There was too much fun, too much excitement to spend her afternoon bored and pawing for nursies. And then when park time was over, she was exhausted and slept like the dead. BOOM weaned.

My own experience was my easygoing first son just gradually tapered off at about 2-1/2 and one day I realized we hadn’t nursed in several days. My second son I had to nurse considerably longer, dedicated as I was to child-led weaning. But the day he decided to stop, he STOPPED.

But routines are the key. The little darlings are like Labradors, with their love of sameness. Use it to your advantage.

The bedtime song is truly an amazing idea. We’ve had a bedtime routine in place for about 9 months and it works really well, but when we added in a special song that is only for bed time about 2 months ago it became the easiest process ever. We use the Soft Kitty song from Big Bang Theory as her song and now whenever she hears one of us start to sing it she immediately lays down and rolls onto her side, eyes closed, before we get to the “little ball of fur” line. If she wakes up in the middle of the night I give her diaper a check and say, “Lay down and go to sleep, sweetie” and then if that doesn’t work she gets another round of Soft Kitty and is asleep in less than a minute.

I agree with whyNot that appetites drop often around 11 months or so. So you offer food 4-5 times a day, but don’t stress if they don’t eat a lot. Definitely helps if you eat with them - my little ones started to enjoy feeding me as well at that point, as they are getting much more social. Teething could also be a real factor, they don’t enjoy chewing as much, and milk is just easier.

Check out the wonder weeks - whenever I was having a rough time it often correlated to a wonder week which didn’t fix things, but helped with the WTF reaction I tended to have.

Have to also agree it’s way time to cut the night feeds - 4 times a night is almost certainly about comfort and not about hunger.

My bedtime routine (similar to above) for 15 month old:
Dinner
Breastfeed (if not too filthy from dinner and if she lets me!)
Bath and teeth
PJs, sleeping sack and cuski (sleep comforter, just magic)
Story with her sister
Lullaby (Goodnight by The Beatles) - she’s almost starting to sing along with me now, I can hear it. We switch the lamp off at “now the sun turns off the light”, and turn on the nightlight at “now the moon begins to shine” quick cuddle and kiss and then down and I am out of the room.

I’ve never had to sleep train this one as I started self settling at 6 weeks, but for #1 we did modified cry it out - in for a minute (rubbing, shushing or patting back but no picking up, talking etc) then out for 2 min, then 4, 6, 8, 10 min. Provided it wasn’t a dirty nappy, teeth or something extraordinary I never had to go past 6 minutes. Probably will take a week, and might be worth Dad doing it, particularly if she’s going to be wanting the boob as she will get frustrated that you’re not offering it.

Try introducing a sleep comforter as well if she doesn’t already have one, its such an immediate cue for my little one, works no matter where she is.

And good on you for still feeding at 11 months - for me it was just something I set my mind to and I had plenty of support with all my friends, mothers group and family doing the same, but it was still lovely to be told you were doing a great thing, and I know the job’s been not nearly as easy for you.

Thanks everyone for the best advice. I stopped grazing and I’ve been eating with her. She’s eating a little better, but still refusing the spoon and only agreeing to finger foods. This morning’s “breakfast” was leftover pork roast (shredded), potatoes, green beans, and corn with a bit of gravy. Sam isn’t filling her tummy, but she’s eating a bit more and is less distractable if I’m eating with her. She isn’t slapping my hand away, and she’s trying to feed me, too, which is pretty cute.

Sleep comforter? Never heard of, but looking at the Cuski site now and I will show this to my seamstress mother and see if we can come up with a design together. Is it the texture, the stuffing, or just the routine/ritual that seems to be the key?

As for the breastfeeding, no, hasn’t always been easy for me but my conscious wouldn’t have let me give up. Until she caught roseola at ten 1/2 months, Sam was never sick, not once. No sore throat, no coughs, no fevers. Nothing. By contrast her both her 2 year old and 6 month old formula fed cousins have been in and out of ER’s, doctor’s offices, and loaded with antibiotics since birth. Those two are fat and happy, but just haven’t been given the immune boost mine has. And I’ve nursed through walking pneumonia and a stomach virus; her dad has had respitory viruses 4 or 5 times and walking pneumonia twice, and two. These boobs may be a pain, but they provide a total force field. How 'bout that? :slight_smile:

And the bonding thing has been awesome. She and I are thick as thieves, just crazy about each other and though she’s showing some independence now, she’s awfully affectionate, and rarely cries. She’s actually gone an entire week without crying once, which, as I understand it from other moms, is remarkable. Her needs are met, she’s growing and hitting most milestones on time or a bit early, and is just an all around awesome, easy baby. The sore nipples, blocked ducts, and constant pawing at my chest is getting tiresome, but I’m pretty sure that most of the problem is my metabolism. I had papillary carcinoma and lost my thyroid and parathyroids before she was born, and my synthetic thermostat is unreliable. I can gain and lose ten pounds in one week, and I have the worst time consuming enough calories to make enough milk for her. I was hoping she would wean herself, but it’s looking like I’m going to have to continue offering alternatives and encourage solids before my supply disappears and we’re forced to wean cold turkey.

Can’t thank all of you enough for taking the time to provide advice and cites. There isn’t a better, more trustworthy resource on the web for baby advice, and at this point I don’t bother looking at the parenting boards. You guys are all so helpful, smart and awesome :slight_smile:

Finger foods are absolutely fine, she’s getting more independent and telling you that she can do it herself. Prepare for the mess, but you should let her have a go with the spoon as well - thick Greek yogurt is good as it sticks well and is low in sugar, porridge or sticky rice. I do baby led weaning and I’ve only ever done finger foods with both girls - meant to be wonderful for hand-eye coordination, taste for a wide range of foods and letting kids judge their own appetite.

The cuski is made of very soft velour towelling, so it feels nice and the head is a very soft foam ball. The material and design in particular mean it is safe from birth, and it’s my go to newborn gift having seen how the kids bond with it. The idea is you wear it for a few hours so it picks up your scent and then you always give it to them as part of their sleep routine.

For my little one, it seems to be the ends which she loves - she will pick it up and bury her face it in, then pop 2 fingers in her mouth and hold it near as the uses the other hand to rub the very ends, clearly a sensory soothing stimulation for her. Other kids just hold onto it and snuggle.

There are other options out there though, some are just a square of microfibre or velour with some tags sewn along the edge, my other friend’s daughter had a flat giraffe. Perhaps google and see.

The sleep store (Australian, but full of lots of helpful sleep articles) has an article about introducing a sleep comforter as part of 6-12 month sleep training.

Too late to edit, As the article says, get/make 2! We have one for home and one for daycare/the car in case one ever gets lost, it’s that indispensable that we did a 35 min round trip in a taxi on the way to the airport last year when we realised we had left it at home, and couldn’t bear the thought of 2 weeks in New Zealand if she wasn’t able to sleep…

At least! :smiley:

My favorite spoon training method, when the kiddo starts grabbing the spoon with a determined “Do it mySELF!” attitude but not the fine motor skills, is to deposit the high chair in the bathtub, close the curtain and let them go at it. Hilarity ensues. Messy, but easy to clean up!

But yeah, finger foods are perfectly cromulent at this stage. I’m sure we lived at least a couple of generations as humans without spoons.

Mine wanted nothing to do with me sticking a spoon in their face - they either put the food in their mouths themselves, or it wasn’t happening.

At 13 and 14, they still occasionally FORGET to use silverware, but are capable of it, so no permanent harm done.

One food to try that a lot of people don’t think about is firm tofu cubed up. Its almost impossible to choke on, has little flavor, has little texture, and is grabbed fairly easily by little hands.

By the way, as you introduce her to table foods, keep in mind that if you want her to eat wheat bread, don’t give her white bread. Don’t let her food choices be all sweat and white.

Maybe just on special occasions? :smiley: