Bricker Challenge 2003 Edition #6

Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
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Just an aside: I’ve never understood that particular stereotype. I saw Bernadette Peters as The Witch in 1986 when this show opened. I’ve seen Passion, Sweeny Todd, A Little Night Music, Company, Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum, Sunday in the Park With George, Gypsy and Anyone Can Whistle, just to pick on the Sondheim world. I’m a huge Broadway fan. I’ve seen shows that no one’s ever heard of – how many people ever saw the musical version of King of Hearts?

How in heaven’s name does that create a presumption of being gay?

It beats me…

  • Rick
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Bricker: Assuming you have a class C network with the default netmask of 255.255.255.0 you have no problem, since you have no subnet bits. You’re just not allowed to have a host x.x.x.0 or x.x.x.255

In the 255.255.255.192 example, you have a 24 bit network mask and a 2 bit subnet mask. Some routers will allow you to use subnets of 00 and 11, true, but they are supposed to be reserved for special functions (sending packets to the 11 subnet is supposed to be a broadcast to all subnets).

See here for a subnet tutorial. Scroll down to the section titled “The subnet-host number tradeoff” and look at the Class C subnetting example. Notice the 255.255.255.192 mask only allows 2 valid subnets of 62 hosts.

That said, some routers will allow it. Some won’t. However, on the MCSE and CCNA tests, you are expected to exclude the subnets consisting of all zeroes or ones when subnet masking.

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Okay, it is definitely a problem in question interpretation, then.

23. My ISP has just assigned me a whole subnet: 206.13.188.1 through 206.13.188.254. What subnet mask should I use if I have four different locations with fifty workstations each, and I wish to route IP to all of them.

I read that as: what subnet mask should I use to allow all of my 200 workstation to be addressed by a single IP route?

You meant: how should I subdivide my assigned range to give each location it’s own subnet so that I can route IP to each location individually?

S’okay. You still owe me half a case of Guinness anyway. :smiley:

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Here’s what Cisco has to say on the subject.

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I think you got him.

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For the avoidance of doubt, my comment was definitely intended to be understood as being tongue-in-cheek, making light of the false stereotype.

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Ack!

You know, Spiritus - it’s only a three year old debt. I was gonna get around to it. What do you want, some sort of breakneck speed??

I can’t send beer anymore, so you’re out of luck. But as I did with lno, I’d like to substitute an Amazon prize, if that suits?

Anyway – your reading glossed over the “four different locations” part of the question.

Lord Derfel - your linked article does, indeed,support what you say… but I notice its bibliography draws from three sources, the most recent of which is nine years old.

Every single router I have used in the past four years - a wide range of Cisco products, and a fair smattering of Cabletron (now Enterasys) have permitted a subnet mask of 255.255.255.192 applied to a Class C address to address four distinct subnets of 62 hosts each. Is it possible that this is an issue with older routers / routing schemes, especially now that variable subnet masking is routine?

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Thanks again for the wonderful quiz, Bricker. I knew last night that posting answers to all 50 questions, confident that the vast majority were right, was a risk. Your feedback strategy allow people who follow your replies closely to go in for the kill, especially when it’s in the final stretch. It’s an interesting quiz format (and has some similarities to the Tour de France and other bike races in terms of the risks of breaking away from the pack too early).

However, I also knew that I would not be able to spend time on this after turning in last night, and was sure that all fifty questions would be answered correctly by the time I was able to return.

Which they were.

BUT NOT IN ONE SINGLE POST.

I’d feel terrible about pulling the following stunt if:
a) I hadn’t done a fair amount of the heavy lifting myself.
b) I don’t actually want the Amazon certificate, just the glory :slight_smile:

For this, I’m prepared to suffer the boos and cries of poor sportsmanship. I’ll even add a few myself!

Now, the OP clearly states:

ENugent got 49 correct, then updated his subnet mask, but in a separate post containing only that answer.

So here follows the complete list of 50 correct answers (unless I’ve blown something terribly). Only #s 19 and 23 are different from my first post of last night:

  1. Q: Physical law for light and gravity drop-off?
    A: The inverse-square law

  2. Q: Mobile, AL - Tennessee. Who are you?
    A: **The boy picked up by the “Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves”. **And papa woulda shot me if he knew what I’d done. :wink:

  3. Q: Kyrie Eleison. Translate?
    A: Lord, Have Mercy.

  4. Q: Manhattan for < $30?
    A: Peter Minuit.

  5. Q: Nathan Brazil and the Well?
    A: The Well of Souls series by Jack Chalker.

  6. Q: Giles says another Hellmouth is where?
    A: Cleveland, OH (Buffy series finale).

  7. Q: Pam House, Kimberly Dugan, Georgia Thomas, and Alison Parker?
    A: All characters played by Courtney Thorne-Smith.

  8. Q: What device controls the winged monkeys?
    A: Golden cap (in the Wonderful Wizard of Oz).

  9. Q: UNIX is to "ls -l"as DOS is to?
    A: dir /v (v is for verbose).

  10. Q: Incest / Fricka / Wotan?
    A: We are Siegmund and Sieglinde, brother and sister, and Brunnhilde, yet another child of Wotan, helps us out but ends up in her fiery bed. From “Die Walkure” (or as Sideshow Bob would say: “Die, Walkure, Die!”)

  11. Q: Who had the Butterflies killed?
    A: Rafael Trujillo of the Dominican Republic.

  12. Q: Describe Janeane Garofalo’s character on “Seinfeld.”
    A: The Female Equivalent of Jerry.

  13. Q: Emma / Ah-nold / Jamie Lee Curtis. Title?
    A: ** Madame Beaux Vrais Mensonges**. (Madame Bovary meets True Lies, or Vrais Mensonges in French. If they are “Beautiful True Lies” in this version, it completes the pun with Emma’s last name.

14: Q: Real-life burglar on Miami Vice?
A: ** G. Gordon Liddy**, Watergate burglar.

  1. Q: (computer program)
    A: Thirty-two. Sixteen rows with two numbers in each row.

  2. Q: a) Bingo, Bango, Bongo, Irving. Where?
    b) Pinky, Inky, Blinky, Clyde. Whree do they work?
    A: a) Gilligan’s Island. They are “The Mosquitos”
    b) Pac-Man video game, They are the ghosts.

  3. Q: Heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard are sweeter.
    A: Ode on a Grecian Urn, Keats.

  4. Q: Poor student kills pawnbroker.
    A: Crime and Punishment, Dostoyevsky.

  5. Q: John Savage, Deerhunter. Jon Voight, Coming Home
    A: Friends. John Savage played Steven in The Deer Hunter and lost the use of his legs from the fall into the river. Jon Voight played Luke in Coming Home who was paralyzed from the waist down from his tour in Vietnam. On Friends, Ross and Monica’s then-boyfriend Richard (Tom Selleck) argued about which was which while Monica and Rachel decided who’d get to use the last condom.

  6. Q: How many terms did Amidala serve as the head of state of Naboo?
    A: Two terms.

  7. Q: Radioactive gas in basement?
    A: Radon. If you’re in Uganda, it’s Radon Entebbe.

  8. Q: Who is the owner and head chef at Mesa Grill and Bolo, in NYC?
    A: Bobby Flay.

  9. Q: Subnet masks?
    A: 255.255.255.192

  10. Q: 3 people that have read “Be Your Own Windkeeper.”?
    A:Rachel Green, Monica Geller, and Phoebe Buffay (Friends).

  11. Q: Do you have a personal guess about what was thrown off the Tallahatchee Bridge?
    A: Why yes, I do. Oh, you want to know what it is? An aborted baby. Not original, I know.

  12. Q: What unit of measure is equal to the distance to an object having a parallax of one second?
    A: A parsec.

  13. Q: Newsreel narrator 1934–??
    A: Westbrook van Voorhis (The March of time).

  14. Q: What actress played the character that marries Ulises on Amigas y Rivales?
    A: Adamari Lopez, playing the lovely Ofelia.

  15. Q: What is the chemical formula for the amino acid that figured prominently in Jurassic Park?
    A: C6 H14 N2 O2 (it’s lysine).

  16. Q: Who was Steve Austin’s boss?
    A: Oscar Goldman, from the Six Million Dollar Man.

  17. Q: Flynn preceded Casey, and so did Jimmy Blake.
    A: Casey at the Bat. Mudville Nine members.

  18. Q: Plan, last member alive wins big.
    A: ** A tontine** (as even Ox from The Simpsons knows).

  19. Q: What human led the first exploration of the Ringworld?
    A: Louis Wu.

  20. Q: Threaded fastener that holds a lampshade to the harp?
    A: A finial.

  21. Q: Why is this night different from all other nights?
    A: (short) It’s Passover (Longer answer): this is from the Seder. We eat only matzoh – we eat mainly bitter herbs-- we dip twice – we all recline.

  22. Q: Horse Nebula constellation?
    A: Orion.

  23. Q: Where The Wild Things Are protagonist?
    A: Max.

  24. Q: You know – for kids
    A: The Hudsucker Proxy. Norville Barnes (Tim Robbins) says this.

  25. Q: I said over and over and over again, this dance …
    A: … Is Gonna Be a Drag. (Dave Clark Five).

  26. Q: Curve of cable hung between two poles?
    A: Hyperbolic cosine (aka catenary).

  27. Q: I’m nobody – who are you?
    A: I’m somebody who’s reading an Emily Dickinson poem.

  28. Q: Warsaw Pact / NATO / Lost Luggage?
    A: The Warsaw Convention.

  29. Q: Name Jonny Quest’s dog.
    A: Bandit.

  30. Q: French, governmental “hands-off” policy?
    A: Laissez-faire.

  31. Q: Time machine / Julia / 1880s?
    A: Si Morley, from Jack Finney’s Time and Again.

  32. Q: Chocolate & ridong naked. Name?
    A: Godiva.

  33. Q: Chief Justice of the US before Rehnquist?
    A: Warren Burger.

  34. Q: Into the Woods – to fetch what?
    A: One, the Cow as White as Milk. Two, the Cape as Red as Blood. Three, the Hair as Yellow as Corn. Four, the Slipper sa Pure as Gold.

  35. Q: Rush song, despair and loss of abilities due to aging?
    A: Losing It (from Signals). There are many others that sort of fit, but that’s the best.

  36. Q: How did Rosalind Shays die?
    A: She fell down an elevator shaft (LA Law). **

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Allow me to start the booing myself:

Boo! Unfair! Shame on you, Antonius Block! :dubious:

There. That felt better.

By the way, Bricker what was your title going to be for #13 (bearing in mind that faux vrais is “false truths”, which isn’t quite the same as “true lies”)?

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Jerk! You stole my answer! :wink:

–Cliffy

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I came in too late as well - maybe next time. Then again, I really wanted to answer Polyphemus to Q 41.

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If I had to guess, he had something like “False True Lies.” :slight_smile:

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Quite untrue, my dear Cliffy. I am mortified that you would think such a thing. And shocked, shocked, I say, that you would accuse me thusly in a public forum.

Your answer referred to someone named John Voight. Having never heard of this person, I created an answer that, upon careful reading, does bear some resemblance to yours, but refers to the well-known actor Jon Voight.

Hope we’ve cleared that up now. :slight_smile:

BTW, why do you hate America so much? :smiley:

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No, I have him. From the Cisco link he posted:

I’d say debate on this issue is resolved. The correct answer was 255.255.255.192.

  • Rick
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There is a certain logic in what you say.

However, while I may still require full reposts to keep track of multiple changes, that requirement was in there only for my convenience. And to accept your invitation to invalidate ENugent’s win based on his failure to repost the other 49 answers would be unfair to ENugent, who clearly relied on my earlier practice of providing feedback to onesie and twosie-type posts. In other words, ENugent would have relied to his detriment on my own failure to observe the strict letter of the law in my own contest.

This seems manifestly unfair, especially since permitting him the win is in keeping with the spirit of the contest - that is, he could easily have reposted all the answers.

While I still may require future posters to repost the entire list for my convenience in scoring, this particular failure is but a de minimis variation from the rules, and does not deny him the prize.

That said, I think it’s clear from a glory perspective that the lion’s share of correct answers were first posted by you, and a tip o’ the trivia hat is warrented. But the contest is both timing and trivia, and I think ENugent is the winner in that regard this time through.

  • Rick
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Oh, the date on RFC 1878 is December 1995… so the practice of not using the zeros subnet and the ones subnet was obsolete in 1995.

And to answer another question while I’m at it:

Any answer that acknowledged both “True Lies” and “Madame Bovary” got full credit, but my original idea was the bilingual pun Madame Faux Vrais, which I think Antonius Block divined first.

  • Rick
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I totally accept what you say, Bricker, and agree with your reasoning. I realize that the “single post with most correct answers” was put in so that you wouldn’t have to deal with posts along the lines of “what x said two pages ago, but change #s 1,3,5,7,9… etc to the following”, which would increase your own workload immensely.

And yes, ENugent should get the prize – I specifically said I didn’t expect it.

I just wanted to point out that, according to the specific rule of the OP, the game wasn’t over yet (i.e. neither timed out nor 50 correct answers in one post). If I had posted that, someone would have then immediately posted the 50 correct answers, I figured that person might as well be me. I didn’t think that deserved a prize, however.

If you’re one of the slowest in a cross-country race to a landmark, arrive red-faced and out of breath, and find that the other, faster runners mingling around the landmark forgot to touch it (that being the stated goal of the race), you’re going to touch it yourself. I dare you not to. However, if it’s a tryout for the team, you’re not going to argue that you ought to have a roster spot you don’t deserve just because you “won”.

For your next challenge, maybe you could say that a post will be accepted as the winner if it has either
(a) All answers correct in the same post, or
(b) A short “differential” post with a maximum of n differences referred to a specific previous post (you specify n, it could be from 1 to 5 or so without making your feedback work too tedious).

Anyway, once again, thanks. I wasn’t trying to be a jerk, honest. :slight_smile:

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Bricker – I didn’t gloss over the “four separate locations”, thats what bridges are for. (I know, nobody uses bridges anymore . . . they’re simple, cheap and reliable.)

Anyway, thanks for teh offer of the gift certificate, but it just doesn’t have the appeal of an anticipated Guinness arriving suddnely at my door. Besides, I will take more pleasure in tweaking you with the debt until I actually have the chance to collect on it (in person) which I think will be the finest pleasure of all.

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I stand corrected. Well done.

I am but the humble apprentice to your Trivia masterhood.

Next time I will remember the wise adage:

The apprentice waits, while the Master bates.

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Y’know, these gift cards can be a big boon to your favorite charity?

A kid in a burn unit would kill for an Amazon gift card

A kid browses the net, or has it browsed for him, gets to choose something, and gets the pleasure of aniticipation waiting for it to come.

http://www.shrinershq.org/shc/
Yeah, they where those stupid fez things, but they do some good stuff.

Just a thought, you know?

(You’d never pay for a beer in my presence.)