Bricker fooled me for too long

I don’t know. How many?

Let me break this down a little for you. Accusing Pat B of being a jerk, a racist and/or a galactic asshole is of little consequence, whether it is true or not. Accusing people of putting other people’s lives and well-being at risk over some union jurisdictional dispute is an accusation of some gravity.

Those horrendous cover versions of soul music he did nearly killed me! Og knows how many brain cells have died across America as a result.

Pat Buchanan? Who was so dreadfully slandered by my comrades? The equivalence?

I agree. So, how many? You are the one who asked the question.

As Eugene V. Debs is my witness, John, I don’t know whether my meaning is unclear to you or you simply wish to annoy me.

Wait—what is my "stupid claim " exactly? I just want to see what you think I’m saying.

John is unable to hear a slight against a conservative without jumping to the defense. Conservatism was his first love you see. He’s moved on, but every once in a while he drives past her house when the lights are on and lingers a moment to watch the blurred shapes and occasional movement behind the drapes.

He’s moved on, but he’s not gonna listen to someone else bad mouth her.

Pretty sure it was put into the Pit after the fact. Ah, yes. Here’s Marley23’s post notifying us of that action.

Approximately 0, I think is elucidator’s argument. Do you contend otherwise? I’m truly intrigued to hear why, and to find out why you’re busting to pursue this so hard.

Here:

Your meaning was unclear, but it was reading comprehension on my part. I blame it on too much sun here in CA.

This is a situation that most of these posters would avoid having to deal with. As someone (I think you) observed earlier, there are never two situations that are PRECISELY alike, and someone who wanted to treat the people differently will always find some distinctions to hang their hats on.

Even if some people would admit in theory that they might treat Bricker differently, that’s in some theoretical and irrelevant situation that we’re not discussing. In *this case *they will always find some other justification, and “we’re talking about this case”.

Did you happen to notice that I used the term “very vested in arguing …”. Do you know what that means?

FWIW, I think there are more conservative-ish members here than people suspect, but most of us don’t chime in on political subjects because at least to me, the majority of posters in that thread are itching to tear you a new one and tell you how stupid you are, without necessarily reading or listening to what you’re saying.

If someone comes on here and says something half-cocked that’s left-leaning and vaguely progressive, few people will jump all over them and become borderline abusive and snarky, but if you come in and say something that’s reasonable, but not necessarily the board party line, you’d damn well better have your ducks in a row and have your rhetorical knives sharpened, because you’re about to get ganged up on by multiple people.

That’s why I think there are few conservative posters- the ones who do, are the ones who like fighting, like Bricker.

Yes, and it doesn’t change my point at all.

That could be read as not being able or willing to defend when challenged.

Not to be snarky, just sayin’, that’s kind of what you seem to be saying.

On the off chance that that’s directed at me, I honestly can’t even tell how asking me whether I know what “very vested in arguing” means even rises to the level of a challenge. It’s not an argument, it’s a weak rhetorical question with an opaque purpose.

It seems very likely this point has already been made, but I’ve didn’t spot it: Bricker’s Union Horror Story thread was posted in the pit; Brain Glutton’s Buchanan thread was posted in Elections. It’s not surprising that the one in the Pit backfired more spectacularly.

Beyond that, yeah, I hate seeing double standards. My feeling are that people should go easier (more patient and less abusive) on minority views than on majority views. It’s too easy to kill minority view points and create an echo chamber.

What’s the big deal, anyway? He’s just one dude on the internet. Don’t like his point of view or his posting style, put him on ignore. Get tired of arguing with him, stop doing it. He has a great deal of time to keep his argument going, you aren’t going to wear him down or convert him to your point of view. So just give it up. If you like his posts, read them. If you don’t, then don’t. Want to debate him, knock yourself out. Maybe you’ll get lucky and change his mind, but more than likely not. I just don’t pay attention to him and I’m perfectly happy not doing so.

To tell you the truth, it looked to me like it was directed at bump, whose post just above yours looks more like it fits with such a response.