Brother?

(This is a repurposed blog post)

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You call me brother, how nice to meet another like me!

Well… actually, what you said was that I was no different from you and from nearly all other men, and that I was nothing special.

But you said that the things I’ve described going through were things you’ve gone through too.

And that it isn’t unusual, and lots of guys go through that kind of experience but don’t find it necessary to proclaim a different gender identity.

But still, you say you’ve been through it yourself.

You apparently also, like me, were told over and over by self-proclaimed gatekeepers of what it means to be a man that you weren’t appropriately man-like, that you were girly, sissified, feminine. Right? You apparently also, like me, found it appalling that those guys were construed as sexy, once the age of dating rolled around, and you were left on the sidelines feeling unattractive and left out, right? Because you said my experience as I’ve described it make me nothing unusual and special, that all the nerdy intelligent non-jock thoughtful introspective boys have that experience, that’s what you said, right?

And yet you don’t talk about it. And I do. Why is that?

Aren’t you outraged? Didn’t it make you angry? Are you going to tell me you never found the entire situation offensive, that you never swore you were going to try to do something about it somehow?

Uh huh. I’ll tell you what I think. I think you learned to fake it, to put on a masculine persona. I think you studied how to butch up enough to stop the harassment. You tucked your sissy feminine corners under, out of sight and you emulated some of the behaviors of the people who had been picking on you, maybe not completely but enough to get by. Enough to pass.

And you don’t wish to talk about it… and when I do, you tell me to STFU, that no one cares about this shit and I’m acting like a special snowflake, acting like someone would actually care.

Hey, I was hoping guys like you would join your voices to mine, be supportive. It’s actually kind of lonely doing so much of this on my own when I know so many other male people know firsthand about the kind of stuff I’m talking about.

Instead, it looks like you decided all that stuff is actually OK, no big deal, not something that anyone should complain about. And like, what, you think it’s embarrassing or something that I bring this stuff up and act like it’s political and socially relevant and not just a rite of male passage?

Maybe you always wanted to be like them, envied them, wished you were more like them all along. I guess that’s OK if that’s true, because I’m not saying I’m a better kind of person than them, and if that’s how you wanted to be, go forth and be masculine, but if so, don’t pretend I’m just like you. I never did.

You keep saying I could still call myself a man, and therefore should. Like it’s such a privilege to affiliate myself with that and that I should claim my sex as my identity. But I don’t want to be affiliated with them. They said I wasn’t a man, I said I wasn’t a man, so it’s mutual.

And as much as I’d appreciate having more people tell me “you’re not alone” and saying “me too”, the way you’re doing it doesn’t give me any sense of solidarity, and I don’t need your permission or approval to speak out.

We’re different, you and I. You sold out.

I’ve decided that this is the last blog post that I’m going to “echo” here on the Straight Dope. I’m going to continue blogging, but without reposting the blog posts here.
I started doing so beginning with my blog post of January 30, 2017, after having run it past the SDMB mods.

Several people at various points expressed the opinion that the Straight Dope isn’t really an appropriate venue for someone’s personal blog entries, and in retrospect I think they were right. In particular, I chose to blog about one subject and it came across too much like a broken record. This is a general-topic message board and I think folks are tired of hearing from me on this one subject.

For anyone who wishes to continue to follow, though, my blog posts can always be found here, most recent one listed at the top, with new ones typically going up on Mondays.

If doesn’t end up being redundant, I may write about the year’s experience of reposting my blog posts on the dope: the reception and reactions and what I learned from it, and so on. (And that will be uniquely a Straight Dope OP, one that will not be the same as what I put up for my blog post).

A year isn’t a bad run. I’ve read a lot of them and I believe I commented once or twice. They have gotten me to think a time or two and I’ll probably continue to read the normal blog. Other than that just a general thanks and hope you continue to hang around here.

I’m sorry that haranguing people in vehement agreement with you from the start to become more invested in your densely verbose, often over-wrought, personal journey didn’t work out the way you hoped. It’s not you, it’s us. We just couldn’t be the kind of editors you needed us to be.

Snark aside, you seem like a good guy. I hope you find the audience that you seek. Just keep in mind that it’s a two way conversation and in order to connect with your audience everyone needs to feel like they’ve been heard and understood.

I like reading your story-of-yourself blog.

This week’s entry was much easier to read.

I don’t agree with the “sell out” accusation at the end. Some people just accept that life is difficult, and often unfair. And it like that at times for everyone, albeit for different reasons and at different times. For me, yes, I was angry and confused why the young women of my youth preferred other guys over me. However, I’ve been much happier just gradually coming to accept myself and eventually find people who are a good match. I’m sure that over 95% of the women in the world don’t want to be with me, or I don’t want to be with them. I’m not sure what I could do about that.

This quote is probably universally experienced at one time or another by every male on the planet:

That said, I hope no one ever actually told you to STFU. Have at it. I’ve enjoyed learning a bit about your journey and wish you all the best.

This blog post seems to addressed overly to men, so i am hesitant to wade in. But I’ll wade in nonetheless.

So much of your writing ( at least that i have read) presents as truly unique and this tale none of us can even imagine!!! But when you get down to details, you’re avoiding any common ground That could and does exist. The men who didn’t decide to call themselves a girl are sell outs. They can’t possibly be men who rejected traditional toxic masculine tropes and still become comfortable within their own skins. They couldn’t possibly be redefining what it means go be a man on their own terms and even more- modeling that comfort and redefinition for others. Nope, they are sell outs if they don’t carry their teenage pain into middle age and beyond. They are nor people you want to speak to.

Nor, it seems, are a great many women, even if some of us could fall under the gender invert umbrella. It doesnt matter to you if your toxic models of gender are boxes that we also reject. You enjoy the feminine label to much to even acknowledge that some of us have rejected it.

AHunter3, I’ve tuned into all of your blog posts. Not because I’m interested in your life or in the subject matter, because your posts almost always generate an entertaining set of replies. I have learned a lot just from participating in the discussions your posts have enabled. So I think you can take some pride knowing that you helped to make this board more interesting.

You’ve gotten some really good feedback over the past year, so I think it is unfortunate that your writing hasn’t really changed all that much. I am concerned your arrogance more than anything is thwarting your goals to be understood and cultivate a fan base.

You make a good point, but I wasn’t shooting for nuanced this time.

(Nuanced tends to yield dense when I write)

I was addressing the ones who not only didn’t follow the path that I did, but who also tell me I shouldn’t be saying what I’m saying, making an issue of this, because it doesn’t make me different, all guys go through that, etc

Yeah, it’s time to pull back a bit and look at how that panned out and reread a year’s worth of feedback.

I’ve read most of your posts (work keeps me from reading the SDMB sometimes for months) but in many cases they seemed so very personal, like diary entries, that I didn’t feel it appropriate to comment on them. I mean, if I did it seemed like I would be distracting people from you and your feelings and experiences that you express. For instance, I wrote and then deleted a giant post in the flirting thread because it seemed like although it was talking on your topic, it would be all about me, and that would distract from your posts.

I would be interested in reading it, Una.

Maybe some time I can PM it to you.

So–now you are calling on “male girls” to be “appalled” and “outraged” that women are attracted to masculine men? Now you are sounding like one of the “nice guys” in a MGTOW Reddit complaining about Chad Thundercock.