I didn’t say it was a violation of the rules (it isn’t). I was saying you insinuated the OP is a racist for no reason, which is a dickhead thing to do. In the other thread you actually weren’t quite as bad, but you immediately asked the OP why he had a problem with Jackie Robinson Day when he said a bunch of positive things about Robinson and only said he had a problem with the number thing.
I can see that. But I think the main thing that I disagree with the OP is about is the removal of the players’ names from jerseys. Yesterday was more about how anonymous the players are, and how many of them are there because of the actions of Jackie. It erases the cult of personality we place around a lot of our stars by removing their identity (to an extent), and focuses that effort on the real hero.
Well after reading the thread, I’m relieved.
From the title, I was afraid that we were now gonna have one day where we honored both men. PHHEWWW! Dodged that bullet!
I hope that you aren’t calling me a “dickhead” because I didn’t insult you and I was under the impression that name-calling was strictly reserved for The Pit. Has that rule changed?
Certainly the OP is an adult and if he was under the impression that I was implying a racist motivation to his question, he probably would have called me on it. He’s certainly welcome to ask me if he is concerned about why I asked the question as I’ll be more than happy to explain myself.
We’re in the Pit. I guess it’s possible this will get moved to The Game Room, but it hasn’t yet.
He hasn’t signed on or posted since last night, so maybe he will do that later. Regardless, to me that’s what it looked like you were doing, and you’re not actually denying it. So?
Didn’t know that I had to “deny” anything.
I’ll wait for the OP to address my issues if he chooses to.
If he doesn’t…then I guess that’s that.
Ok. In the meantime, you did imply the guy a racist for no reason, which is a dick thing to do.
Maybe so, but having all the players wear No 42 is just stupid. IMHO.
Robinson died from diabetes. Better they should honor his memory by making it diabetes awareness day rather than 42-a-palooza.
My complaint about the whole thing, is that MLB is patting itself on the back for acting like they are the heroes in the situation; to wit, MLB, through Jackie Robinson, bravely broke the “color barrier”. But who was creating the color barrier? MLB, through the commissioner, the owners, and the players.
Jackie was not the first person of color to play in MLB. There were black players from the 1860s. But MLB systematically drove them out. Veeck and Rickey were trying to break the barrier for years, but were stymied by the commissioner. Even after the barrier was broken, the BoSox steadfastly “held out” for 12 more years after Robinson’s debut.
Instead of being so proud, MLB should hide its head in shame at letting the barrier form in the first place. And maybe the Sox should be prohibited from wearing 42 on JRD. 
Well, I’m the OP in the Game Room thread that Marley linked to earlier, and as Marley stated, you basically implied the same thing in the other thread, with me as the rascist in question. So, yep, I didn’t think there was any doubt that you were asking why I had a problem “with the day”. “The day”’ That is exactly how you parsed your question, when anyone reading my post with any intent to truly comprehend, clearly knew I was saying I didn’t like the relatively recent “all players wearing 42” way of recognizing the day, that I felt it lessened the honor for Robinson.
So, are you just trying to be a dick, or what? Yes, I’m now asking you to “deny” being a dick in your initial posts in both threads, just in case that wasn’t clear.
I think you missed the point here: they’ve realized the color line was wrong, so they’re honoring Robinson for his role in breaking it. What you’re implying is that nobody should honor anti-discrimination pioneers, which would be stupid.
That’s not how we need to mark our history. This history should be kept in mind for a lot of different reasons, but you don’t need people in baseball today to act ashamed over something that ended 50 and 60 and 70 years ago. That accomplishes nothing and people resent it. It’s better to celebrate progress and encourage people to be vigilant in the future. Just not by making everybody wear the same number, IMO.
Do they still make his model of shoe? I think that would be kinda funny, to make everyone in pro baseball to wear athletic shoes design around World War II. 
No, I’m not. (On the SD, there are only extremes, no middle.)
Honoring Jackie is great. A person of my time (and color) cannot comprehend what he had to deal with, and his endurance in the face of all that was against him does make him honor-worthy.
In this particular case I have a problem, as noted, only with the self-congratulatory tone MLB gives it (IMO), as it was a problem of their own making. I’m not demanding MLB endlessly flagellate itself, but there must be a middle ground somewhere.
Agreed. And Selig is a weenie. Yeah, that too.
I’m trying to illustrate the problem with what you’re suggesting. All of these kinds of problems are “of our own making.” That being the case, how can you support celebrating the end of any of it?
It’s not a problem of the modern day MLB’s making, though. It’s a problem of the making of bigots in the 19th century and early 20th century. Kennesaw Mountain Landis has been dead for almost 70 years.
Selig says that the DH has not been ruled out forever for the NL. He must be banned, if only for this.
You could wait… or you could just read the fuckin’ OP, where he explicitly said what his objection to the day was.
I think Marley’s point is that this logic is equally applicable to anyone who was a civil rights pioneer. MLK dedicated his life to ending racial discrimination by the American government. Is it, therefore, inappropriate for the American government to have MLK Day, given that it was that government that was creating the obstacles MLK was struggling against? If not, how is that situation different from how Major League Baseball is honoring Robinson?
I propose the following:
One guy from each team (in rotation) will spend a road trip series wearing the number 42. He will sit apart from his teammates on the plane. He will stay in a different hotel (preferably of a lower standard). The home team crowd will boo him every time he comes to bat or makes a play. The home team will treat him as if he didn’t exist and his own teammates will shun him in the dugout.
Then, maybe, they’ll each come to some understanding of what Jackie Robinson went through.
I would hate to see this but would not be surprised. Much has changed in the past few years.