Yeah well, FE!Jenny Calender touched Angel, and it really looked like FE!Dru touched Spike.
IOW, it’s only non-corporeal when they need it to be for plot purposes. The rest of the time it doesn’t matter. Like pretty much the rest of the show.
There, there Pepper. Just because you don’t like the way the writers are treating SPike…
I don’t know if you noticed, but I had several other complaints. Willow, Kennedy, the SiTs, Giles, and Principal Wood chief among them.
Also, Jane E, Drew Greenburg, Marti Noxon, Doug Petrie and David Fury are contributing to the anger because well…don’t want to give away any spoilers do I?
I’m with you on Amy’s motivations, kung fu lola. Amy isn’t rational, and the last time we saw her she was angry at Willow. Seeing that anger fester and grow and then find a flimsy (and indefensible) excuse for vengeance is perfectly in character for her.
WARNING! pepperlandgirl will self-destruct in five minutes!
Back to the Amy thing … I was going to mention earlier (before icky work took me away) that her actions did not bother me at all, as her character.
Think on this: She is her mother’s daughter.
Her mother was willing to kill a great number of people, Amy included, to get back at others and BE NUMBER ONE.
Evil Mom: Willing to kill to be number one.
Amy: Bitter over Willow being more powerful and tossing aside, thus making her willing to do awful things to be number one.
She’s just getting to be more like her mother.
I’m just wondering, does Amy know (could Amy know) her mother is trapped in the cheerleader statue?
Amy was not interested in BEING NUMBER ONE, so her mother cast heinous spells on her.
Amy was not willing to cast a love spell on Cordelia so that Xander could get back at her, and was only willing to do horrible things to others to BE NUMBER ONE when affected by the backlash of her own spell.
Amy was perfectly capable of wreaking horrific magic on the people trying to burn her at the stake, but ran away rather than dominate others with magic and BE NUMBER ONE.
Amy, having found a place where she can gain access to even more magical power than Willow has and BE NUMBER ONE, takes Willow along. And then gets pissed off when Willow has more power than she does.
Do let me know when you feel your logic starting to break down, will you?
I should think that statue was destroyed along with the original Sunnydale High.
Does the cheerleader statue even exist anymore since the original Sunnydale building went kerplooie?
BTW Amy’s actions didn’t bug me so much exce the day-for-night part and I was really hoping that TFE had something to do with it all. (How did Amy know that Kennedy is a SiT?) When she slipped up and called Kennedy a slayerette, I thought she was an apparition for a second – until I remembered that WilloWarren slapped her (well, that and she’d been holding hands and stuff).
Somebody on this board once claimed in the episode where Reilly is hiding out in the burned carcass of the school you could see the cheerleader statue in the rubble. I don’t have the episodes on tape so I can’t check.
Sorry, Gaspode, but I still feel any musical stars should be at the Bronze, not dating/killing Xander. Eye cancday? I already have Buffy, Willow, and blossoming Dawn(goin’ to hell for that one). And Ashanti just rubs me the wrong way, kinda like Ja Rule. What’s next? Ted McGinley as the Big Bad? Pregnant Buffy?
One thing I did laugh out loud at was Kennedy’s Galaxy Quest reference when she was teleported…
“That was a hell of a thing…”
I don’t mind guest spots at all. The thing that annoys me the most, is the idea that there has to be a teenager in the group, to cater to teenage viewers. Dawn in BtVS and Connor in Ats. One could hope that JW & ME could see beyond this, but no.
It’s been a while since I was a teen, but I distinctly remember not enjoying shows where people my own age where doing what most teens do - making asses of themselves.
Let’s wait with the ruling on Ashanti’s supposed lack of acting abilities till next week, ok? 
I really don’t get why so many people are having trouble with the Initiative not being filled with concrete and the bodies still being down there. Hello! Secret Evil Goverment Conspiracy! These are not the sort of people who always do the right thing. In fact, based on Seasons Four and Five, they almost never do the right thing. Again, evil. Remember how they were doing experiments on human beings? And you’re shocked that they left a bunch of corpses lying around?
Evil Death - Sure, where I said:
Getting rather riled up considering we’re only discussing a TV show, aren’t you?
OK, FTR, the worst eps ever were, in this order…
“Potential”- God, that was lame. Maybe I only like “The Killer In Me” so much because, on the heels of that, it fairly scintillates…
“Gone”- the only thing that made that episode even remotely worth watching was seeing as much of James Marsters as can legally be shown on network television
“As You Were”- the return of Riley Finn. And the whole demon-egg plotline was lame beyond belief.
“Where the Wild Things Are”- great, an entire episode based on Buffy and Riley shagging and causing bad things happen as a result. Was there any doubt that the relationship was doomed after this?
“The Zeppo”- great. Xander’s lame efforts to be cool land him in trouble, but, wait, he saves the high school basement… The only reason I even cared was because the characters I actually liked were upstairs actually saving the world and would have been blowed up too.
Also, I agree with pepperlandgirl that the whole Spike torture thing is getting a bit old. I think “The Killer In Me” would have been more enjoyable if it hadn’t so closely followed two episodes in which Spike did nothing except be tortured. One episode of nonstop Spike torture is enough. And this not too long after the whole “insane in the basement” thing, which could have been a good story arc, if the writers had actually cared enough to do anything with it, and if they werent’ going to, they should have had Buffy get him out of the basement at least two episodes sooner than she did.
I thought Spike was starting to show some strength this episode, and I hope the trend continues. He realizes that he still poses potential threat to the Scoobies and the annoying SIT’s, so he voluntarily chained himself up. I thought the friendly chat between him and Buffy before the chip fired was neat, too. And Spike was the one who decided they should go to the Iniative’s Vast Underground Complex in search of the drug and/or some files that might contain Helpful Information. It was also nice to see Buffy showing some trust in him- “You’ve been fine…”
Besides, Spike chained to a bed= yummy. (well, OK, it’s only a cot, but still)
I, too, thought the kiss between Warren/Willow and Kennedy exhibited more chemistry than anything that transpired between regular Willow and Kennedy. Who knew Warren could kiss like that?
Sorry if I seem a little short, but your argument is totally inconsistent with past episodes - even if it happens to be right. Which was my original bone of contention with the episode, as you may recall; that it heftily violates continuity.
Dawn was human in body but was actually a universe-destroying Key. Giles should have killed her ass dead.
And I want Spike to start making Giles-esque comments about how getting captured and forced to suffer agony has become a day in his life.
And I still think that Giles needs to make Amy his bitch.
I’m sorry, but any episode with extremely naked Spike * twice, * can’t even be in contention for worst ever. Much LESS naked Spike with his hand up Buffy’s skirt!
And which ep is WTWTA?
You mixed * Smashed * and * Wrecked. * Demolition fuck is * Smashed. *