Might you have gotten that idea from the novelization of the original movie? That stated that both Caligula & Jack the Ripper were the same vampire.
One of the weaknesses of the series, I think (though I didn’t read the comics) was that this angle wasn’t really discussed in any detail. To me, Amy is a genuinely tragic character, with a far better claim to the “magic ruined my life” narrative than Willow ever had. She may be evil now - but there’s little doubt that she was made that way, through her mother’s malice and Willow’s indifference. (Seriously - “de-rat Amy” should have been Willow’s very top priority, at least until it was supplanted by “bring Buffy back from the dead.” And we’ve no indication that it was anything more than a hobby, at best.)
This bothered me, too. It’s been awhile since I’ve seen it, but IIRC, she didn’t de-rat Amy until Tara broke up with her and Willow was kind of lonely. She was like “I wish there was another witch I could hang out with…HEY! I could de-rat Amy!” and then she just did it, like it was nothing.
How long could she have done that? How could she have not done it the second she had the capability?
Very uncool, imo.
Ok - let me just clarify for the record:
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Amy ratted herself when they were trying to escape the witches. She didn’t try to save all 3 of them - she just saved herself - and badly at that.
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Willow actually did try to de-rat Amy for a long time but she was still a new witch. By the time she did have the skills - she was so used to not being able to, I’m sure it didn’t occur to her.
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I don’t really have a 3, so Hi Opal!
Also on Amy’s record: The time she turned Buffy into a rat. When all the women (except Cordy) were in love with Xander because of a spell that Amy screwed up…
Yeah, I know. It bothers me.
Oh yeah - that was my third one! Thanks!!
As for Amy just trying to save herself - granted, that was selfish. But she was a high school kid in a life-threatening situation - sure, in the Buffyverse that might produce heroics more often than in the real world, but panicked flight is still a perfectly understandable reaction. I can’t hold that against her.
I can sort-of understand Willow being used to not de-ratifying Amy. But it still smacks of both selfishness and thoughtlessness - not least because rats just don’t live that long. Two years is a hell of a good run - some might make it to three. Amy was very much on the clock.
And yes, Amy turned Buffy into a rat - while under the influence of the Xander-love-spell run amok. Plenty of characters did questionable things while that spell was messing with them - again, not Amy’s fault.
Because he was in the opening credits.
Seriously, remember how awful that was? Obviously there was something in his contract that meant he was in every stinking episode, because for no good reason there he’d be in a dream sequence or something. Grrrr.
So wait, Mr. Excellent, Amy gets a pass because she’s a high school kid but Willow doesn’t get the same pass?
Willow’s a hormonal high schooler as well - battling demons and monsters and vampires every week and dealing with Werewolf boyfriends and Witchy girlfriends and tumultuous sexuality issues and a mom that almost killed her and all that.
Fair’s fair.
Different circumstances, though. Amy acts poorly in a crisis and under the influence of mind-altering spells. Willow gives the Amy problem a shamefully low priority for years - all through high school and part of college, if memory serves. I don’t expect high school kids, even good ones, to make great snap judgments - but I don’t think it’s unfair to expect them to act correctly in the long run. Willow doesn’t do that.
Amy was, is and always will be a rat. She’s evil. No sympathy from me. If you’ve been following Season Eight you’ll know why.
BTW, Amy got briefly de-ratified in Something Blue, when Willow’s wishes all came true.
Did they do anything with Halfrek (Anya’s vengeance demon pal) being the woman who scorned Spike back in the day?
They referenced it with a puzzled look between the two later, but that was it.
OH I KNOW WHAT BUGS ME.
Buffy never addressed Xander’s changing of Willow’s message to her in the finale of S2. “Willow says…kick his ass.”
Five years later, Buffy mentions that and Willow looks confused and says “What? I never said that!” But Buffy moves on and it’s never again addressed and Xander never gets any comeuppance for doing that.
…okay, that may not be an “unanswered question”. Um.
How come Buffy never finds out about Xander changing Willow’s message to her in the finale of S2 and smacks him upside the head?
Because she realized he did the right thing by lying.
Seriously, what should he have said? “Hey, Willow’s gonna try that spell again. And since we’re all TOTALLY confident in her ability to pull this off, you just stall him and try not to die, 'kay?” Yeah, that’s an *awesome *idea.
Just how evil were the bunnies?
They are rabbits, and therefore infinite in their evil.
They’ve got those teeth, and feet, and - good God, man, just look at the skulls!
(Yah, I know, wrong reference. But I choose to believe that Anya never understood “Monty Python and the Holy Grail” was a comedy.)