You’ll notice that Spike didn’t go after anyone’s neck. He’s allowed to fight, but he can’t bite.
No, he’s not allowed to hurt (in any way) humans. Remember the episode where Tara’s father shows up and tries to convince her she’s part demon. Spike, er, comes to the rescue and punches Tara in the face and immediately cries out in pain.
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Also I saw him throwing chairs around more than actually attacking people.
Gobear, I get goosebumps anytime Tara sings, and when Spike sings after he saves Buffy. A single tear trickles from each eye. The emotional ante is way higher when they sing it rather than say it.
I’m in the process of learning ‘Rest In Peace.’ How cool was that song? ‘Whispering in a dead man’s ear doesn’t make it real.’ The bridge section, eerily dissonant and creepily shot. I can’t stop watching.
Ack! People keep on saying that Tara looked Husky. Ack! Grr! Okay, I am a little bitter because Tara happens to be the only female on that show with a normal weight. She looks husky, but that is just compared to all the other sticks on the show.
That said, I am a HUGE Buffy fan. I LOVED the Musical, which is good, because I must say that I have been a little dissapointed with this season as a whole.
I thought that ASH and Tara both had great voices, and did an amazing job. In fact, I thought that every one was passable. The only obviously bad singers, in my opinion, were Xander and Willow.
I also don’t see why the hell Xander would have cast the spell, but I know that Dawn didn’t, because she didn’t swipe the amulet until the morning after Buffy started singing.
I can prove that Xander didn’t summon the demon!
When they’re singing I’ve got a theory he doesn’t say anything about it.
The songs forced out secrets.
Therefor had he done it he would have blown his cover in the trying to figure it out song.
So if it is a main character who did it (and not the geek trio) then the individual who did it must be Dawn.
I think it actually has less to do with weight/fat than build. I believe this is a * real * case of the classic “bone structure” argument. While the gal who plays Tara isn’t skinny/bony, I think she has a very heavy frame, wide shoulders, wide hips…just not the sort of frame that we see much in American actresses. Plus they dress her like shit for that kind of figure.
Speaking of figures, I was watching the old ep on FX last night where Buffy and Cordelia compete for prom queen, and I have to say that Charisma C. has a gorgeous throat and shoulders…the dress she was wearing really looked fabulous on her. But she is a fabulously pretty woman, why wouldn’t it…
That’s true, but there’s certainly a precedent in “normal” musicals for two types of songs: the first, like Anya and Xander, where other people can hear you, and the second, like Giles’, where you’re singing only to yourself and to the audience. Nobody else on stage can hear you, even if you’re shouting in their ear. If the demon’s spell/presence was supposed to cause a Broadway show effect, there’s no reason you couldn’t have singing that no one else could hear. Case in point is Giles/Tara’s song up in the balcony. They weren’t that far away from the rest of the crowd, or singing that softly, but no one seemed to notice what they were saying.
About Tara’s weight, I realize this is shallow, mean, and hypocritical considering my shape, BUT, when Buffy, Anya, and Tara were dancing together, my very first thought was “Hey, it’s Wilson Phillips!”.
** barbarian ** Either our friendly neighbors to the north got ripped off, or we Americans got ten minutes of extra commercials, cause the show ran 70 minutes here. (or at least it did in SoCal). How many commercial minutes do you normally get per hour of show? I think it’s 14-16 here.
** The Tim ** That’s a pretty good theory, but I bet there’s ways around it. The songs didn’t force out every secret all at once, maybe his silence was a sign that he was the summoner. They couldn’t let him sing at that point because he would have had to let the secret out. I hadn’t even thought about it just being Xander covering for Dawn/other until reading posts here, though.
I said it. I know she isn’t going to England. I think I said I thought for a minute it sounded like she was.
Yeah, I’d read that somewhere…
We’ve seen Spike grab people a number of times without triggering the chip. He grabs Buffy during her dance as she’s starting to smoke. He’s restrained people as they’ve walked past him. I think there has to be a certain level of violence before the chip triggers. A punch, a bite, etc. The chip’s a pretty amazing piece of technology, seeing as how it can apparently analyze not only Spike’s intentions but the biological origins of his intended targets.
But they did dress her very badly for the final number, which is odd because her clothes were similar throughout the episode. it wasn;t that she looked “husky,” it’s that she looked sloppy.
Not all of the songs forced out secrets. Tara’s love for Willow is not a secret, for example. And the parking meter lady was claiming that the hydrant she parked next to hadn’t been there before. And even if “Theory” was a “forcing out secrets” number, Xander just says he has a theory (he says it’s witches then retracts it under the glares of Tara and Willow in the second-funniest part of the song after “bunnies”). He doesn’t speak to the truthfulness of the theory. I can have a theory I know is wrong, but it’s still a theory.
Another funny line that I misheard the first time: Giles was able to look at one of the bodies while the police were taking “witness arias.” Hehehe! Although I think, and I’m certainly not an opera buff, that they correctly would have been witness recitatives.
Not necessarily. At the time, he didn’t know that the musical wierdness had anything to do with the necklace. He might not have made the connection just yet.
I thought it was a great episode myself. Maybe a little superior to Xena’s “Bitter Suite”.
Who’s with me voting for “Walk Through the Fire” being the new theme song, or at least the unofficial theme song?
Oh, yeah, Amber Benson’s huge. :rolleyes:
I believe she’s a size 6.
All of the rest of the girls on the cast are about 2s. And Tara certainly doesn’t have the monopoly on bad dressing- have you seen what the wardrobe designer shoves some of those poor actors in?
Don’t get me wrong, I like Tara and I think Amber Benson is a handsome young lady (as long as she doesn’t do that “ears peeping out through curtains of hair” hairstyle). I also liked her other outfits in this show, for example the ensemble she wore for “Under Your Spell” (are there official titles to these songs or are we just making them up?). But that yellow top she was wearing for her final dance bits did not flatter her. It didn’t move well and her breasts and belly looked squashed. No criticism of Amber Benson, rather of the wardrobe person who put her in it to begin with.
Question: when did Buffy leave the Bronze? Spike says “bugger this” and starts to leave. We can see Buffy still dancing. We cut do a different camera angle and can no longer see Buffy as Spike leaves the bar. Cut to outside, with no break in the soundtrack, Spike is walking away and Buffy calls out to him. So, did she teleport?
Nope, she just moved Slayer-fast.
Love ya, Otto, but it’s time to start telling yourself “it’s just a show”.
Yeah, but we all play our paaaa-aa-aaart.
Beadalin
Not only do they not breathe but they “have no breath,” as Angel tells us when Buffy drowns. Which begs the question as to how vampires smoke and talk.
Granny
Yeah, I should really just relax. Oh wait, wrong series.
I think Angel means he has no breath in the sense that the air that he moves around with his lung has no vital energy.
Well, neither does the air I move around with my lungs, but I could perform CPR on someone. How much life force is there in a ventilator?
Lemme try that again. I meant that vampires mess with the air in away that just moving it around wouldn’t. This robs it of any ability to convey life to someone. I tried to find better theories on the buffy.com forums but I couldn’t find one.
It is possible they don’t move that much air. Maybe they can draw enough to talk with but not to do cpr efficiently.
Either of these could be explinations.
In the episode in which Buffy learns how the other slayers were killed from Spike (and we learn more about Spike’s past), he grabs her at one point and holds her rather violently. He then says something about how it seems to measure intent. Something like he has to intend harm for it to try though I don’t think he understands exactly why (if I can find that video tape, I’ll double-check).
Oh, it reveals a secret – Tara just doesn’t know it. Tara IS under a spell of Willow’s; the song is not simply metaphor for being in love.
According to “The Monster Book”:
While they do not actually need to breathe—at least not in the sense that humans do, with the intake of oxygen—vampires can simulate breathing in order to smoke cigarettes or to help them create the illusion that they are human. In “Prophecy Girl,” when Buffy had drowned and needed CPR, Angel could not help her. "I have no breath, " he told Xander.
[Emphasis theirs.]
Besides, a lot of smokers will tell you that besides nicotine intake, the habit (the “rituals,” if you will) of smoking are just as much a part of smoking as any chemical response. That’s why when people quit smoking they often find things to do to keep their hands and mouths busy (chewing gum, eating, etc.) to make up for that lack of behavior. {Of course, this is better suited for the mythology thread, so I’ll drop it now.}
Xander covering for Dawn? Perhaps. I haven’t decided. There are some clues he might be though:
Point one, Dawn enters the Magic Box and tells everyone how cool the singing and dancing was; she reiterates the sentiment when Xander says Willow and Tara are off singing she says it’s romantic – not just the implied romantic/sexual exploits—but the singing and dancing.
Point two, Xander says he can’t stand to see the guys singing and dancing at work, considers the singing and dancing a nightmare (walking with Giles after his morning ditty with Anya) and says nothing about possibly conjuring the demon even when he learns that some people spontaneously combusted, which Giles learned while the police where taking “witness arias.”
Point three, when Tara tells Dawn that Willow has a lead on the Lord of the Dance demon (“Not the scary one, just a demon”) Dawn asks nervously, “Any idea who summoned it?”
Point four, Xander’s excuse is lame and seems awkward and sudden, and he’s never tried to conjure anything (anyone) before – but we know that Dawn has stolen both charms/talismen and a book (or books) on witchcraft from Tara and Willow. Besides, we all assumed Dawn put on the talisman she’d just stolen from the Magic Box (post singing and dancing), but she’d stolen jewelry (magic or otherwise) and there were several pieces in the jewelry box she took it from…
I now have lyrics available on my website for almost all the tumes.
BTW, {slight hijack} you can now pre-order Tony’s CD Music for Elevators which is due out in February.{/hijack}