I assume this was directed to me. If not, I apologize.
No not at all. First, just because you are biased doesn’t mean you are wrong, just that your bias needs to be made clear, and should be considered by members of your audience. There is a reason shows like 60 minutes state it when the subject of a piece is owned by/beholden to their parent company.
It is a scientist’s duty to show where they get their funding from. That way, we can see the possibility of bias. When they get their funding from the gov, and from people private citizens who don’t like bullying, people hear about it, and they do exactly what you are saying. They consider the possibility of bias, for all of two seconds, and for the most part say, “Nah!”
Do you have a point besides the idea that people should do what they have already done?
And you have a cite for this, right? You don’t expect us to just take your word for it?
You don’t know much about this place, do you? We don’t know who you are. You could be lying. People have before.
Why does anyone lie? Because they do. You are a stranger to us. Maybe you are lying.
Sigh. You really don’t know how things work around here.
Hey! Slander! Unfair! You slandered her!!!11!
:shrug: You could be lying about that. You could have worked on the committee and been completely clueless (this does not appear to be a stretch at all).
“Questioning my authority”? Sheesh, you really are unfamiliar with things around here. That’s what GD is all about.
If you think I’ve “slandered” you, feel free to take it up with a mod. I don’t believe I’ve run afoul of board rules, though. But in recognition of my tendency to ramble (usually coherently, I think), I’ll try to keep this brief.
*If your position here were merely “Bullying that results in the hospitalization of the victim is not very common” then that would have been a very fine cite indeed. Were that your position, I also doubt anyone would be disagreeing with you even if you didn’t have a cite. But that has not been your stated position.
*This from someone who’s spent the whole debate hiding behind his mommy’s skirts. I’m telling it to you straight, kid. I think you’re a liar. When you say you have special knowledge of the subject of school bullying, you are saying something that is not true. Perhaps you did once study the subject, but if you have you didn’t learn much or you don’t remember it. There’s no shame in this – I don’t remember everything I read in high school either. But I don’t pretend that I do. I suppose you might actually sincerely believe the things you say, but in that case you’re just lying to yourself.
I’m not going to candycoat that for you, but I’m also not going to pretend that my opinion on this matter is backed by some special authority. I’m not going to tell you that since my mother is a psychologist I must know a liar when I see one and none should dare question my authority. I’m willing to take responsibility for my own opinions and my own words. There’s nothing particularly brave about any of this, but it’s a darn sight less cowardly than your behavior here has been.
*So your evidence is the very lack of evidence. How convenient. Say, do the Men in Black have anything to do with this?
*You’re right, I will never accept that “My mommy thinks I’m right” is a compelling argument.
*Your whole postion rests on unsupported claims of authority for yourself and your family. There’s no way on earth that any reasonable person would ever be convinced that you’re right based on that alone. Several people in this thread are either schoolteachers themselves or related to schoolteachers, and we’re supposed to bow down to your “expertise” just because you’re related to teachers too? That’s absurd. We’re not perfect around here, but the SDMB usually manages pretty high quality debates. And when people commit major logical fallacies, as you have been doing here, it gets pointed out, as I have been doing here. If you can’t handle that, maybe you shouldn’t try to participate in these kinds of discussions.
So if the other kid does it, it’s ok. I feel that way, actually, when discussing “communist regimes v. the whole of the history of Christianity. Which has killed more people?”, but it seems to not play around here. You and I will just have to contain our selves, when the urge to call **someone ** an idiot comes up.
Implied? Yes. Called? No. (And he already got away with some gratuitous name-calling earlier, (find “baby” in the earlier posts).) I won’t claim that anyone has been polite, here, but name-calling crosses the line in GD.
Scott, any urges to call someone an idiot may be relieved in the Pit. You will not do it in GD.
I was not going to respond to your comments because I can see how my comments were insulting and in violation of the rules. I accept responsibility of my actions and I apologize if it poisoned the debate in any way. However, I don’t see a practical difference between my conduct and the conduct of many others in this thread. I don’t know if this is the correct place to state my grievances, so I apologize if this is improper.
While implying something and stating something are two difference things, I don’t see how either wouldn’t represent a violation of the spirit of the rules. Neither do anything to further the debate.
In this debate, people have implied I was ignorant, dishonest, disgusting, repulsive, sociopathic, etc. How can all of those comments be tolerated? Not to mention that I was directly called a liar in this post:
In short, I understand why you took the action you did, but I would hope that the rules be enforced in a more consistent and fair manner in the future.
Stare Decisis.
Somewhere in the last six years, the determination was made in GD that the statement “You are a liar” would be judged equivalent to the phrase attacking the post (“That is a lie.”). (My memory is that the argument used was that in common parlance, a person who told a lie was often called a liar.) If someone would like to call for a reconsideration of that ruling, he or she may open a Pit thread to discuss it.
At this point, I am simply enforcing the currently accepted rules in the Forum.
As noted above, I have not seen very many polite posters on either side of the discussion in this thread, but your specific post happened to step over the line.