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ok people, relax. I didn’t mean any of that about sending whites into space and the digital bumper stickers on the cars and whatnot. I was just being a prick.
I too have stories about being discriminated against. I was sent to prison for commiting a racially motivated crime(even though it wasn’t, he was black, i’m white)I’ve been pulled over for speeding, riding in black neighborhoods, asked for my id when out late at night and so on. It happens to blacks, I’m told alot more, but it happens when police want to do their jobs.
I don’t doubt white privelige exsists, and if it does, could I get some please, because I’m poor, I’m a felon and I apparently don’t live in the real world.
I’ve seen blacks at like animals because a cop asked them to move on, stop fighting or whatever the cause was. For instace, a black homeless man was being a jerk on the street near a college, bothering people and whatnot. A white cop asks him to move along and the man freaks. I was standing around the corner and he comes around saying white motherfucker, cracker bitch punkass cop, and for what? The cop asking him to stop panhandling and move along? I asked him why he said all that, and he denied saying it…go figure…another story,
I work at a car shop. Frequently we take cars to a local bank and get the customers checks signed. Well, this is a small bank and their policies are strict. The woman said she needed the owner of the car to sign the check in person in front of her. No prob. The woman is black and the people at the tiny bank are white. It takes a while to get the check signed and the woman wants all cash. Well, it's over 2 grand and in the afternoon. She has to get a money order. The black woman gets her check and walks out saying loudly, "see how they be doing black people"...utter bullshit.
We all have a story or two. I'm sure blacks get followed in stores, but so do whites. You maybe need to adjust your paranoia level there mojave. As far as living in the real world, I really do, and I'm not angry despite how my posting sounds. I just think if we all start with ourselves and wipe out racism, then it would cease to thrive and hurt others. But the key is we all have to do it and stop blaming others.
In all honesty, I’ve landed a couple of jobs due to being white. These jobs consisted of loading decorative rocks on trucks, driving forklifts and the like. They picked me because of all the blacks that kept quitting and screwing up at work. Maybe it was the area and type of crappy work that seemed to attract these types of people. Maybe theythought that by me being clean cut and white I would fare better. Not so. The work sucked and so did management so we were all out of a job soon. They just couldn’t see it. I truly realize in many high paying job situations minorities are overlooked and for that all I can say is that it shouldn’t be.
I do firmly believe that blacks in a position of power(some anyway) would do the same. Allow me to share with you all why...because we are humans(animals) we eat sleep mate and defend. We laugh, cry love and hate. It doesn't matter where we are from we feel and think about the same things. We are the same, from different backgrounds, from different areas, yet we tend to be full of problems and favor one over another.
I realize my comment about whites should have to have bumper stickers stating that...looked dumb, but I was merely being facetious. I've experienced much racism in my life, serve time in prison and if you are white you really learn the deal quickly. As far as following blacks and browns around stores, ha, come on do you really think that is something that only happens to them? Also, when I see spanish people I wonder if they speak english, thats natural. I dont get all loud and silly
about it though.
To sum up my long uneducated post, racism exsists on many levels and in many areas. It isn’t only limited to whites(not saying anyone said that but judging by your posts I would assume you feel as though its mainly whites). Oh, and really, my second and third posts were meant to irritate, not my true feelings. I should learn to grow up(thanks doc goo fee)…binarydrone, thanks for the welcome…I’m not an angry white man, I’m just an angry individual who is tired of tyhe media dictating how we should think and feel. I’m angry that our culture idolizes movie stars and sports figures. I’m angry racism exsists still today. I’m angry that we are made to be consumers from birth. holy shit I am angry, just not your average white male guilt ridden privelaged schmuck.
ok people, relax. I didn’t mean any of that about sending whites into space and the digital bumper stickers on the cars and whatnot. I was just being a prick.
I too have stories about being discriminated against. I was sent to prison for commiting a racially motivated crime(even though it wasn’t, he was black, i’m white)I’ve been pulled over for speeding, riding in black neighborhoods, asked for my id when out late at night and so on. It happens to blacks, I’m told alot more, but it happens when police want to do their jobs.
I don’t doubt white privelige exsists, and if it does, could I get some please, because I’m poor, I’m a felon and I apparently don’t live in the real world.
I’ve seen blacks at like animals because a cop asked them to move on, stop fighting or whatever the cause was. For instace, a black homeless man was being a jerk on the street near a college, bothering people and whatnot. A white cop asks him to move along and the man freaks. I was standing around the corner and he comes around saying white motherfucker, cracker bitch punkass cop, and for what? The cop asking him to stop panhandling and move along? I asked him why he said all that, and he denied saying it…go figure…another story,
I work at a car shop. Frequently we take cars to a local bank and get the customers checks signed. Well, this is a small bank and their policies are strict. The woman said she needed the owner of the car to sign the check in person in front of her. No prob. The woman is black and the people at the tiny bank are white. It takes a while to get the check signed and the woman wants all cash. Well, it's over 2 grand and in the afternoon. She has to get a money order. The black woman gets her check and walks out saying loudly, "see how they be doing black people"...utter bullshit.
We all have a story or two. I'm sure blacks get followed in stores, but so do whites. You maybe need to adjust your paranoia level there mojave. As far as living in the real world, I really do, and I'm not angry despite how my posting sounds. I just think if we all start with ourselves and wipe out racism, then it would cease to thrive and hurt others. But the key is we all have to do it and stop blaming others.
In all honesty, I’ve landed a couple of jobs due to being white. These jobs consisted of loading decorative rocks on trucks, driving forklifts and the like. They picked me because of all the blacks that kept quitting and screwing up at work. Maybe it was the area and type of crappy work that seemed to attract these types of people. Maybe theythought that by me being clean cut and white I would fare better. Not so. The work sucked and so did management so we were all out of a job soon. They just couldn’t see it. I truly realize in many high paying job situations minorities are overlooked and for that all I can say is that it shouldn’t be.
I do firmly believe that blacks in a position of power(some anyway) would do the same. Allow me to share with you all why...because we are humans(animals) we eat sleep mate and defend. We laugh, cry love and hate. It doesn't matter where we are from we feel and think about the same things. We are the same, from different backgrounds, from different areas, yet we tend to be full of problems and favor one over another.
I realize my comment about whites should have to have bumper stickers stating that...looked dumb, but I was merely being facetious. I've experienced much racism in my life, serve time in prison and if you are white you really learn the deal quickly. As far as following blacks and browns around stores, ha, come on do you really think that is something that only happens to them? Also, when I see spanish people I wonder if they speak english, thats natural. I dont get all loud and silly
about it though.
To sum up my long uneducated post, racism exsists on many levels and in many areas. It isn’t only limited to whites(not saying anyone said that but judging by your posts I would assume you feel as though its mainly whites). Oh, and really, my second and third posts were meant to irritate, not my true feelings. I should learn to grow up(thanks doc goo fee)…binarydrone, thanks for the welcome…I’m not an angry white man, I’m just an angry individual who is tired of tyhe media dictating how we should think and feel. I’m angry that our culture idolizes movie stars and sports figures. I’m angry racism exsists still today. I’m angry that we are made to be consumers from birth. holy shit I am angry, just not your average white male guilt ridden privelaged schmuck.
Oh, also, I’ve dated a few dark skinned puerto rican women and never experienced any of that shit. I’m sure it happened, but not to us. She did however, beat her kid at the mall one day and a white woman freaked out. Go figure.
> As far as following blacks and browns around stores, ha, come on do you really think that is something that only happens to them?
I do agree that overreaction happens in a lot of areas, that whites aren’t the only ones who can be racist assholes, and of course I know that all kinds of people get followed in stores.
Prison-- geez. That’s certainly a vivid illustration of how racism isn’t just a white phenomena in terms of an individual phenomenon. Institutionally, it’s different-- whites certainly have advantages over persons of color in the US.
What I was trying to point out, albeit badly, was that this kind of thing happens quite a bit more with my partner than it does with me alone. It’s not just the big things, it’s the little things, like whites who think I share their prejudices and don’t think twice about telling me just how the feel about “those people, those <insert race here>.” It’s also the tightening I can see in people, a slight attitude change, the very pasted-on smile. At this point I don’t know if it’s our race, or our sexual orientation, but either way it’s a pretty damn uncomfortable feeling.
I think Govindha makes a good point. Just because something bad happens to a black person doesn’t mean the exact same thing would not have happened to a white person.
It’s just as wrong for a black person to say “that white cop only pulled me over because I was black” as it is for a white cop to actually do that.
Also, people’s feelings about racism tend to cloud their observations, so that someone who thinks a lot of racism exists will see many more examples of racism than someone who thinks there is more racial harmony.
mojave and taxguy, thanks for sharing and turning this around. I felt as if I were about to be sent to the pit and ripped a new a-hole.
I also hate when people make racist comments and want me to agree. My father is that way and says it around my children and I cannot stand it. Prison was the same way. Some whites would have all sorts of jokes to tell and would pepper their speech with nigger this and that, but in a bad way, and then turn around and be so friendly. I became known for calling them on their bigoted nature. I remember walking in from the yard one day and this black guy nick named "Black"(whew, he looked like a struck match) was calling somebody a cracker, I asked if he'd like it if I was calling out nigger and whatnot and I walked off.
A bit later he came up and apologized. That really meant something to me, it showed that anyone can break through and cut it out.
I think sometimes temper gets the best of people and they say hurtful things because they know it'll cut to the bone. We all have to learn to take it to the personal level and work through it.
When one raises their children to hate and be prejudice it's hard for them to see through thier parents ignorant ways. If your mind is clouded it's easy to assume that skin color is the sole reason one was stopped by the law or followed at a store. Or whatever the case may be. It happens, we established that, but it happens rather frequently from the mouths of comedians and those who have access to media outlets. Some peopel have a hard time seeing through whats fact and whats fiction.(i'm included)
Hey margo, I'm sorry I hijacked your thread in this manner. I'm at your mercy. Punish me as you will, for I truly deserve it...Haribol...