Bundy's and ilk go free. Damn them

Right–these people aren’t protesters, they are terrorists attempting to overthrow the US government and turn it into a libertarian distopia. The military should handle them with Predator drones if the court system can’t give them the lifetime locked away in a cage that they should get.

Can you cite any such massacres of blacks, left wingers, or Muslims in the US in recent times? Say, the last 40 years? You state what would have happened to them with such confidence that I assume it must have happened many times before.

Who else do you think should be summarily killed by the government?

Wait, what ? You can do that ?! “Um, y’r’honor, I’m sorry, it’s an inconvenience to be tried right now. But I’ll call you, OK ?”

Black rights group MOVE, Philadelphia, 1985. Aerial bombing of a residential block by police. Five black children killed. Six black adults killed. Sixty-five homes destroyed.

Nobody. Just the armed terrorists in the process of attempting to overthrow the government. They want war with the US? Give it to them.

So, these bumpkins were attempting to overthrow the US government?

Okay, that’s one. The mayor who classified them as a terrorist organization and oversaw the action was black, so how does that fit into the narrative that they were killed for being black?

Yes, they were trying to inspire it and trigger it. Just as Tim McVeigh intended to to in Oklahoma City. But I figure that you already know this and are JAQing off.

“LAW AND ORDER”

-Trump

Same thing.

They were trying to overthrow the US government by taking over a bird sanctuary in Oregon? I guess you have to start somewhere…

I’m all for prosecuting these yahoos, but let’s not create martyrs out of them.

I’m trying to find out just how much of your posting in this thread is you being a bog-standard, bellicose internet blowhard and how much of it is serious. Given the government’s history of violence, the current POTUS, and whatnot, a person would have to be a simpleton to think it a good idea to let the government freely murder citizens just by labeling them terrorists. I wasn’t pleased when the previous POTUS did the same to foreign nationals.

Yep.

Nobody here is saying it was a good plan.

Except when it comes to pardoning Arpaio. Then … other considerations take precedence.

:smiley:

Exactly. These are not people you want having the power to summarily kill people.

The issue isn’t whether or not the eviction of the black rights group should have been performed. The issue is why the method chosen was aerial bombing and why a city block was burned to the ground.

The police and fire commissioners were the people who made the decision to bomb the house and to let the city block burn to the ground. They were both white.

It is irrelevant that the mayor and city manager were black, just as it is irrelevant the President was black in the Bundy standoff and the Bundy occupation.

Please make a case that they were killed for being black. Some of the government officials being white does not, in and of itself, demonstrate that. They were black and they were killed. Draw a link between those two things or withdraw the example.

Both MOVE and Malheur were armed civil rights occupations. In both matters it was appropriate for the powers that be to direct that the occupations be stopped. In both matters the person with the ultimate authority was black (the black president or the black mayor), but in both matters, the people who determined and carried out the outcomes were all white.

With MOVE the people with the immediate power to decide where white and they chose to kill the blacks, whereas with the Bundys, the people with the immediate power to decide were white and chose to release the whites.