Bush had "bad luck". No, he didn't.

All vitriol aside, I’ve no clue what this means?

Yet you feel free to comment on the opinions of board members you know so much less about than Bush. And the reason that we know so little about Bush is that he keeps it secret when he is running a public entity. Most of these matters are secret not because of national security, but because they don’t want to be scrutinized by the public. This is not a problem of humility or lack of understanding on the part of critical members of the public, but rather lack of humility and understanding on the part of the members of the Bush Administration. The notion that members of the public should not criticize their government is servile, disgusting and un-American.

FEMA needs to be run by people trained to run it, not a lawyer who quit law because it wasn’t for him and then oversaw horse racing because of political connections. Republicans run government badly because they think it cannot and should not be run well. Grover Norquist Grover Norquist - Wikipedia summed up this philosophy as government should be “drowned in a bathtub”, seeming to miss the point that government is necessary. Katrina actually drowned 2000 people in New Orleans’ “tubs” as the containment sections are known because FEMA was unprepared to get help to those in need.

The Republicans have taken the maxim of minimizing government as an excuse to run its functions badly with people not adequately prepared. See Heckuva Job Brownie and GWBush. The idea that individual leaders need not be smart or qualified and it will all work out is just fucking stupid.

I think it means that you’re in the 22% of the public that approves of the job Bush is doing.

Really? That’s hilarious! But I didn’t defend him! I very explicitly passed. And because of that, she thinks I’m a Bush supporter? Is she irrational, or simply incoherent?

Do you have an argument, or are you just going to take popshots from the sidelines with your pop gun?

Neither; you’ve just elected to pop off one-liners against the tide of opinion in this thread instead of making an argument, so we have no way of knowing for sure what the hell your opinion actually is. We can only work with what you give us.

Dnftt

Tip of the iceberg. Bush/Cheney also did more, and more zealously and successfully than any admin since Nixon, to concentrate all governmental power in the president’s hands. The “unitary executive,” and so on. All of which Obama will now inherit. I just hope he’s enough of a constitutional lawyer to resist the obvious temptations.

Nope. Its just a popshot. This is the pit, remember? I thought the OP was being ridiculously simplistic and overly dramatic in his assignation of blame, so I quipped as much.

Next thing I know, I’m being asked for a point by point rebuttal. WTF?

But what if it turns out that it’s, gasp, a secret Objectivist?

Me too!

Nope–that doesn’t account for his intentional dry fucking of the American people and, especially, the Bill of Rights.

That is attributable not to W’s incompetence but to Cheney’s competence.

I’m not so sure the distinction is meaningful, especially if we’re talking about the Bush presidency rather than, specifically, Bush himself.

The difference is that Cheney is evil while Bush is merely stupid. The Administration as a whole has been surprisingly competent at getting its (Cheney’s) way, with a few major defeats, like the privatization of Social Security. But that’s political competence. Governmental competence is when the things you get done work out as you hoped; in that regard, their record is more mixed.

You’ve done a lot more research on this than I have: can you tell me just how much evidence we have that Cheney has been behind all this stuff?

He was unlucky enough to have a hurricane hit NO. He was incompetent enough to have a crony in charge. They also cut the budget for protecting the city. So it was not all bad luck.

How about we divide up the schedule? The first forty-eight hours of a crisis are decided by luck and after that it’s an issue of competence.

So Bush was unlucky over terrorism on September 10 and 11, 2001. After that he was incompetent.

Katrina was bad luck on August 29 and 30, 2005. Everything bad that happened after that was incompetence.

The financial crisis was bad luck on September 7 and 8, 2008. Since then it’s been incompetence.

As others have said, bad luck happens. But if you’re the President of the United States, you’re supposed to put on your big boy pants and deal with it, not sit and complain about how life is unfair.

And you think that somehow Bush’s administration would have possibly known about those 4 targeted airplanes? Bull shit. No one could have prevented the happenings that day.

And so if this hurricane would have happened a couple of years earlier then the levees would have withstood the force? Bull shit again. This could have happened at any time, but happened during GWB’s watch.

I believe this was started as part of the FNMC ans FRMC programs during the Clinton administration.

You are a bullshitter aren’t you. Katrina was not his fault. What happened after was all his fault. it was a mess. Cronyism at it’s worst.
Fannie and Freddie are so far removed from whats going on ,it is not funny.
There was a lot of warning about the towers. Several countries warned the government . They chose to ignore them.