Bush signs "finding" authorizing wider covert offensive v. Iran

The only source I’ve found for this so far is Alexander Cockburn at Counterpunch, but that’s more than good enough for a Pitting:

:dubious: GIVE IT UP, W. Remember that “political capital” you resolved to “spend” after the 2004 election? Well, you’ve gone and overdrawn the account. You are now more unpopular than Nixon was when he resigned. You cannot sell the American people yet another war. Just accept your “legacy” as it is and stop trying to make things even worse.

I stopped being surprised about this stuff when we invaded Iraq. Honestly, I thought that was a joke - “no sane government would start a second war when it already had one unfinished one on its hands,” I said to myself. Said it to you lot too, in fact.

ABC News has the same story. (And check out the comments calling ABC traitors for running it. :rolleyes: )

No, it’s not the same story. Note the reference to “nonlethal” in the ABC story, and the comments that this means Bush is less likely to take overt military action against Iran, contrary to the conclusions you drew from the first story.

Yeah, kinda like the idiots around here who you are constantly chastising for calling Libby or Cheney treasonous. Right?

What, am I the only one who assumed that this was already going on?

-Joe

Of course it’s been going on, but this widens the scope.

If a known shitbag is willing to admit to stealing a dollar, it’s a pretty safe bet that he’s actually managed to lift a five spot.

-Joe

Those are pretty hilarious.

If the Iranians didn’t already know about this… well, what could you possibly have to fear from people who didn’t notice we were destabilizing their government and currency markets until we told them about it?

This is a complete outrage and I will not stand for it! How could this be done to the unsuspecting American people!?!?!

(Note: The link freezes up my Firefox every time I click on it. I’m more worked up about that than the topic of discussion. This aggression will not stand, man!)

I could be wrong, but do I detect a faint note of sarcasm?

I’m just pissed that ABC News has apparently signed a classified finding for covert action against my computer. :mad:

Yes, it screwed mine up as well.

So does this authorization of “targeted assassination” mean that Shrub has revoked Executive Order 11905? Or was that EO already toast and I hadn’t heard about it?

No, it means that BG’s first link was factually incorrect regarding that assertion in the first place. If you can link to the ABC news story, this particular order explicitly forbids taking lethal actions.

Not exactly:

But words are slippery in Washington and especially in the intelligence community, and the sources’ calling this a “nonlethal presidential finding” does not actually mean the sources’ understanding is that assassination is right out.

Not exactly:

But words are slippery in Washington and especially in the intelligence community, and the sources’ calling this a “nonlethal presidential finding” does not actually mean the sources’ understanding is that assassination is right out. The story does say, a bit further down:

Which is less ambiguous but no more convincing.

What exactly would we call it if Iran engaged in

“A coordinated campaign of propaganda, disinformation and manipulation of United States currency and international financial transactions.”

What makes it OK if the US does this to Iran? Because at least they are not killing anyone?

My guess is that the US does this for the same reason a dog licks itself… because it can.

More like “Why does someone jab a caged bear with sharp sticks? Answer: to bring the bear to a more sensible negotiationg position, in order to foster better relations with the bear.”

Okay… good luck with that.

Because a free bear will eat you if you jab it with sharp sticks.