Yup. The audience was a bit rude but shut up when the play started. The cast’s statement was written–so they’d put some thought behind it. No bad words, or anything. And Pence was leaving the room at the time–with his SS (Secret Service) escort. So he probably didn’t hear most of it.
Hamilton has been a hot ticket for some time now. During its Off-Broadway tryout & especially while the original cast played on Broadway. Public figures of all sorts have managed to attend the play–even Cheney. But Donald Trump, so rich & connected he could command excellent seats, never took the time. I doubt he has sufficient attention span to watch a play.
It doesn’t matter. The fact is that it was rude and out of place.
No different than if Pence, at the end of the play, had heckled them. He was there as a paying audience member, he was not their to receive a once-sided rehash of the stuff he gets in his day to day job.
Again, I agree with what the cast member said, but this place would break limbs leaping over one another in outrage had Clinton won and gone to a play and been treated to an out of place lecture (no matter how short or kindly worded) about her politics.
No problem with the message itself - but the time and place were wrong.
And somehow, “Please don’t boo the guy that we’re about to single out for ideological criticism during this politically tense and testy time.” almost seems like priming the pump.
My, you are looking for dark undercurrents, aren’t you? Sure, they pretend to be quiet and respectful, but they are really looking to provoke anger and fury. Kinda subtle for Americans, don’t you think?
'Course, I live in Baja Canada, so maybe I should watch out for these people! They pretend to be bland and civil, but maybe they seethe with murderous rage!
You think maybe there’s someplace in between burring your head and coming off distasteful at inappropriate times to get a perfectly valid point across? And do you think maybe it’s this sort of “justified” attitude that has alienated so many people from the left?
Have you taken away any life lesson from this last election? Or do you prefer to keep your eye’s closed with your fingers stuck in your ears, because hey, you know you’re fucking right?
There’s a lesson of humility to be learned here. And if you don’t learn that lesson, you’re no different from the very people you hate.
This is not an original comment, but anyways: aRepublican heckled Obama during a joint session of Congress, and was made into a folk hero. Michelle Obama and Jill Biden were booed at a NASCAR event (to nothing more than eye-rolls from the left). Trump better grow a thicker skin, and fast (Pence, I suspect, knows how to take this).
It’s another reason Trump’s complete lack of public service makes him unsuited to the job - a corporate boss can fire people he doesn’t like (and surround himself with sycophants), while anyone in government has to learn coping mechanisms, including how to deal with people who will always say you’re screwing up, even if you’re not.
Trump’s campaign had a few moments here and there where he had to shut up and take criticism. I gathered he viewed this as some sort of injustice.
The bombastic psychopath and his bigot buddy won the election because they screamed lies to the heavens, and half the potential electorate bought it…and stayed home.
Good point, and it prompts me to reverse my earlier comment. We should have a “Trump twitter” thread and a “Stupid Trump Idea of the Day” thread if the former is only for his twitter comments and the latter is only for his policies and actions, i.e. stuff he does that actually affects something.
Donald Trump ran a campaign based on xenophobia. Openly demonizing and scapegoating minorities. Calling for immigration bans based on religion, and promising to commit war crimes, including bringing back torture (waterboarding and “much worse”, “even if it doesn’t work”).
Mike Pence willingly signed up to be Trump’s running mate, and helped him get elected President of United States, lying through his teeth when necessary. If for the rest of his life any time he wants to watch a play and relax, he receives a gently worded berating, that seems like a mild penalty.
Uh… yeah, he actually is. I may not agree with him, but he has displayed what I believe is genuine human emotion and even, at times, empathy with people. Some people. People who aren’t in the classes of people Pence believes should be modified to suit his religious beliefs.
Welcome to Performance Art. If ANY fuck-faced politician goes to ANY play… the performance may include different interpretations styles and different characterizations.
And, in the case of ANY unpopular politicians or their whores/dates, the cast may choose their choice of Words, Rotten Produce, or Half-Bricks… as hard as they can be thrown.
You bought a ticket to a Performance.
STFU And Take It, or go take your Skank to Mini-Golf.
Yes. We should all worry that we are just as bad as the bigots when we shame the bigots. That’s such an original thought that we should all take totally seriously.
Yeah, we learned humility. We learned that we didn’t have this thing won like we thought. We learned we need to redouble our efforts. Not reduce them.
Yeah, having Trump as president isn’t normal. THAT’S THE WHOLE REASON WE NEED TO CALL HIM OUT AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. That’s why half-baked approaches are doomed to failure. We need to attack him and his VP on all fronts.
We can be kind to the people who are hurting, who voted a racist despite his racism. But the actual racists and homophobes? No, we can’t have “decorum.” Decorum lost.
Trump lost votes every single time he turned into an asshole on Twitter. So baiting him is 100% the way to move forward. And that means we need to keep track of everything he says.
We are now in the battle for 2020, and we will win. Or the country will be burned to the ground trying to stop us.
