Cain has a Clarence Thomas problem

I agree they’ll get behind him, although the level of enthusiasm may not be what he needs and ultimately he may face the same problems McCain did. But it should be noted that there are reasons for the GOP base to object to Romney that don’t have anything to do with religious prejudice. He really is not all that conservative.

If (when?) Cain crashes and burns watch for the big Gingrich spike. He’s the next one in line, I think. He sort of had a mini-boom before he talked bad about the Ryan Medicare plan, but I think he’ll be the next Not-Romney. Of course he’ll self-destruct (again) at some point too…

Gingrich is the candidate of the future, and he always will be. At least if the future was around 1996. :smiley:

I can’t wait until they realize his father was Mexican-American.

You mean he’s an anchor-baby?! :eek:

Oh, I don’t think Romney’s conservative at all, not in the contemporary sense anyway. Then again, who knows what the heck he is? He flip-flops so often it’s amazing he’s not afflicted with permanent whiplash. The man has no integrity and, seemingly, no core.

That stated, he will still be the nominee.

Didn’t see this, anywhere.

Witness: Sharon Bialek hugged Herman Cain during Tea Party meeting a month ago

That settles it (I guess).

The name of one of the women who sued Cain has been disclosed, although it’s not clear if she is going to go public herself. Cain’s press conference is apparently… interesting.

Did she stick her hand down his pants?

The woman I mentioned in that last post is going public on her own and proposing a joint press conference for all the women alleging harrassment by Cain. Would it be overly ironic if I said he’s fucked if this happens?

This gossippy article became more interesting because I’m reading that Cain said today that he’s never met her at all. So this article is intended to hurt her credibility but if you give it any creedence, it hurts his, too. He also continued to hit the ‘anonymous allegations’ theme right around the same time the second accuser was going public, so… at least he’s stopped saying he’s done talking about it, because he isn’t.

Mary Matalin was on GMA this morning trying to stick up for Cain, basically by attacking the credibility of the women. She sez one of the women took offense at Cain commenting on her height…? Cain himself claimed that these women were found by the “Democrat machine” and also by the Perry campaign.

Note: it is really sad when a female operative tries to defend a man against sexual harassment charges when clearly she has no more idea of what happened than I do. Is Matalin working for the Cain campaign? What does she care if he’s in trouble or not?

And who are these women who go to a powerful man they barely know to ask him to help them get a job? I’ve honestly never heard of this tactic. Assuming she’s after a political job and probably not the kind of job you could find in the want ads or on Monster, wouldn’t he have someone closer to her on the food chain who might be able to help?

Cain has said several times that his only possible offending statement to one of the accusers (Kraushaar) was that she was the same height as his wife. I believe she’s alleging there was a pattern of harassment over an extended period. He’s gone after the first woman to go public (Bialek) by suggesting she’s mentally ill and greedy and the Democrats put her up to it. I’m not sure how Perry got to be part of the anti-business Democrat media machine, and I’m glad I don’t have to figure that one out.

I have no way of knowing if any of this harassment happened. This is more or less all supposed to have been private interaction between two people (at a time) and there’s no physical evidence, so it would be hard for Cain to prove he didn’t do anything. But between the clusterfuck response and the attacks he’s choosing here - the woman is crazy and has financial problems, the media machine put her up to it because they don’t want a businessman to be president, and the comments by some surrogates taht sexual harassment laws suck and women can’t take a joke at the office - hurt his credibility more than they hurt hers. Bialek’s allegations are always going to be suspect because she act on it at the time (some of her friends have signed affidavits saying she told them about it back then, but so what?). On the other hand we know for a fact that two women filed harassment claims against Cain and the restaurant association at the time and those claims were settled. You can read the settlements either way depending on your biases: either they might be telling the truth because they didn’t soak the company and received a small sensible amount of money and left their jobs to put it all behind them, or they didn’t get very much money because their wasn’t much merit to their allegations. There isn’t much to go on, but a lot of the “defenses” of and by Cain are very distasteful.

Cain blamed Perry, Romney, reporters and now seems to have settled on the Dems. The Dems are spectators in the Repub preliminary process. Why would they single out Cain? He would be easy to beat.

The finger pointing is really, really ugly. In one breath Cain claims the multiple sexual harassment accusations are baseless and in the next his campaign slings mud at the women and accuses everyone under the sun of a conspiracy.

So are they lazy and desperate, or just malicious?

Can’t they be all three?

I guess, but if you want to be malicious, being lazy gets in the way. I mean, a simple phone call would have cleared up the Kraushaar thing and they wouldn’t have wasted their time on a defense that frankly, I don’t think anyone but an over-the-moon Cain fan would have bought anyway.

Let’s add incompetent to the list.

I can’t help wondering how this would have played out if Cain had said that he’d treated everyone in the Association as his equal and been friendly and joked and flirted with some women at social events, only to find out later that his behaviour made these women uncomfortable. That it was an eye opening experience to look at his own behaviour from their point of view and realize how it might come across differently than he intended because he was their boss. As a result he’d encouraged the generous severance packages and modified his own behaviour. Living is learning, blah, blah.