Calling Academics! Need help with CV niceties . . .

I don’t want to brave the intense firefights over CV/cover letters manners at Chron of Ed forums. I’m applying to be department dean (my home department) and would like some suggestions:

  1. Do I print the cover letter on the college’s letterhead? Stupid, not stupid, no clear rules on this?

  2. CV arrangement: where do I put my corporate admin experience? After my higher ed admin experience? Right now I have it following ALL of my academic krapus, but it looks weird . . .

Thanks, J-Shark

NO. (edit: it would look as if you were using the college’s brand to promote your own personal brand. Use plain paper.)

I’d put it with the higher ed. admin experience, if they’re at all related.

YAY! Thank you and (finally, freakin’) DONE!:slight_smile:

Good luck! I don’t have anything substantive to add, especially since you’ve finished already. But this thread needed some well wishes. Let us know when you get good news.

The firefights aren’t as intense in the forum for deans and department chairs. You may have a problem or two to post there in the near future!

(I wasn’t there for the great paper clip war but I understand it was brutal.)

Reviewed a lot of job applicants over the years.

  1. Letterhead is a good idea. It would look funny without it. People do this all the time.

  2. All work experience is in reverse time order. Do not group by type.

Are you talking about c.v.s, or about resumes? If you haven’t worked in academia, you should be aware that the rules of the game are quite different.

You should brave the CHE forums, you are likely to get better advice there rather than here. The Dope is great, but academia is it’s own special beast. Advice from people not in academia is very likely to be just plain wrong - not their fault, but no one who hasn’t worked in academia could be aware of all the flat-out stupid things that the culture mandates.

I am an academic, and have been one for over a decade.

  1. YES, you should use letterhead. One of the things you are being evaluated on is where you are right now. Cover letters without letterhead are going to look strange and attract questions.

  2. Have a CV section on “Administrative Experience”. Group your corporate experience after your higher ed experience, with nice subheadings so it’s easy to follow.

I’m pretty sure the dean of her own department is going to know “where she is right now.”

I missed that. Still, I’d do the letterhead. It’ll look weird without it.

I don’t know, avoiding deans is something of an academic art form.

Since this is specifically a thread about academia, I responded to my specific, decades-long, experience in academia.

The “Calling academics” in the thread title suggests you should assume that posters are academics unless otherwise noted.

It would be nice if that were true, but it hasn’t been my experience here. Dopers like to throw their two cents in regardless of whether they’re relevant to the question asked.

Because you didn’t specify that you were an academic, and because you said you’d reviewed “job applicants” rather than CVs, I had the same thought that Dr. Drake did.

ETA: I am an academic! Although a very junior one in this thread.

  1. Why wouldn’t you use your college/department letterhead? You are there. This is an official letter. Seems silly not to, but to be honest it wouldn’t matter much either way.

  2. Hard to say given lack of specifics. I’d probably group by type, Academic Work Experience, Non-Academic work experience but it depends on you, the institution and job.

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What is the difference? That is the second time I’ve read that in a week and I always thought it was the same thing.

Also, doesn’t using the letterhead look like you are helping yourself to department stationery? Where I used to work, I’d probably have been fired for that (a bunch of cheap administrators in that toxic place)…

I hestitate to answer after the dressing-down I got from ftg, but a c.v. has a lot more detail and often runs long. Mine is, I think, eight pages at this point; nor does mine contain anything like “goals” or “objectives.”

That’s pretty much it (though in most countries the CV is the equivalent of a resume).

CVs and resumes are interchangeable labels, Except, in academics, you put “Curriculum Vita” at the top because … Latin. Everyday conversation doesn’t otherwise care.

Different positions require different amounts of details. E.g., some might want to see a complete listing of all papers. Others, just a paper count and a link to where the complete list is found will do. What you call it doesn’t change.