You’re interesting and provocative and all, and I admit I bought one of your books about ten years ago.
But WTF? You’re now the commentator on everything from the Olsen Twins to the role of Blondie in the end of the disco movement. You’re Little Miss Sound Bite. I think I liked you better as “Bitch Who Is Out To Piss Off Humorless Feminists” Stop overanalyzing shit!
I like my academics in stuffy lecture halls. Not on VH1.
Oh, I haaaate Camile Paglia! She gives feminists, lesbians and Philadelphians a bad name!
It especially pisses me off when I see her as a talking head on film documentaries. Excuse me, I can talk about film history, AND do it without a huge splintery stick up my ass, too!
Sorry, Guin. No link. I just had VH1 on and she was making quips yet AGAIN about music trends, and it just reminded me how sick I am of her and how she seems to pop up everywhere as a social critic.
I went to Universty of the Arts in Philly when she was teaching there. AAAAAAAAGH!!! I never took any of her classes because (pardon me cartman) She is a mega mega mega bitch!
Eve she doesn’t have a huge splintery stick up her ass, it’s a couple of trees with wildlife still attached.
She was on VH1? Dammit, I missed it. Well, I’m a fan, and I don’t care if she is talking about pop culture instead of feminist theory. Why should she limit herself? And about this “popping up all over” stuff…where else is she “popping up”? I seem to be missing it pretty consistently.
Ugh, I checked one of the columns in shell’s link -
"Why we need to cut taxes deeper, reexamine American education and tune out “The Sopranos.”
Oh, the rambling, the rambling! THE UNHOLY RAMBLING! If she wants to be a commentator, so be it. It shall be as the buzzing of flies in a self-important publication read mostly by weenies. If she wants to be an advocate for certain courses of action, she should revisit Rhetoric 101:
**Pick one topic, write a clear, concise, well-supported argument for your position. Keep it to a page. Elegant. Simple. Powerful. **
Camille Paglia, Queen of Verbosity, are you paying attention?
And the self-promotion, the UNHOLY ARROGANT ANNOYING SELF-PROMOTION! Woman, if anyone is reading your “column,” they know who you are and they know what you wrote. In her diatribe on the Vagina Monologues, Paglia basically says it’s a load of crap masquerading as “empowerment.” I tend to agree - I thought the show was entertaining in places, but largely overdone, and the supposedly revolutionary idea of the play that men have “alienated” women from our vaginas and must somehow “rediscover” them is embraced only by women who couldn’t find theirs with a flashlight and a compass.
So why in the middle of this (which is in the middle of a 4 page column about Bush, Hillary Clinton, and Condoleeza Rice) does she need to include this?
A chapter of your book was resold in England and translated in European countries? Wow, that means you MUST be right and 1,000 times more insightful than anyone who has ever lived! That DEFINITELY adds to your point.
The problem with her is that as others have suggested, she does have some good ideas. We definitely need gadflies to challenge conventional wisdom.
However…
You do nothing for your cause when you hide any reasonable, coherent thoughts in the center of a big steaming pile of crap. As with any debate, the louder you scream, the less logical your arguments appear, regardless of their actual merit. I used to occasionally quote Camille Paglia in discussions of feminism or women’s changing roles. But it’s no longer worth it to have to qualify every one of her statements with, “Of course, I don’t believe everything (most of?) what she says, and on a lot of issues she’s just plain wrong.”
In a lot of ways, she reminds me of John Stossel. Start with a reasonable approach, attacking the established order and providing a fresh perspective, and then go so far over the top that you’re just rambling inanely about the first thing that pops into your head. And we all know where this sort of thing leads…Andy Rooney.
I’m totally with magdalene. Not only does she self-aggrandise to an amazing degree, her supposedly wide-ranging ideas are oh-so-predictable. Anyone sexy, male or female, is always of Italian ancestry and/or part of an ongoing ‘pagan’ tradition (whatever the fuck that is). And Jesus, even Guy Ritchie doesn’t publicly and continuously obsess this much over the relative hotness of Madonna. The other incredibly annoying thing about her Salon columns was the way she would publish only the positive response letters from readers - I mean, we all know that someone must have written something that disagreed with her at some point, right? But no, we only saw the stuff from the gushing fans. So much for wanting informed debate with the feminist orthodoxy. Iccchhhhh.
Huh, I always wondered who 60 Minutes was going to replace Cantankerous Man with when he finally kicked. Watch out for Paglia starting her speeches and articles with “Have you ever noticed that…?”
Say, “rambling inanely about the first thing that pops into your head”…sounds just like the other female Pit target du jour, Ann Coulter. Hey Fox Broadcasting! For Celebrity Boxing II: Paglia vs. Coulter! For added spice–loser is never allowed to give a speech, appear on TV, or write a book or article ever again!
You know, I never even heard of Camille Paglia until the 2nd semester of school started this year, and my English 111 Prof is not only going to have us read commentary she wrote about “The Birds” (I believe that’s what it is, I haven’t actually bought the book yet…), he also had assigned her life as a research project to some of the students.
I didn’t much like her from the small presentation, but figured I’d give her a chance. But so many people here hate her…I’m not a little bit leary of her as well.
Ann Coulter is the secret long lost love child of Camila Pagilia and Stephen Barnes. Think about it, it explains a lot. But what the hell do I know? I think that Fenris and Scylla are each others’ sock puppets.
This thread pops up in a vanity search and I gotta read the whole thing thinking “Why the hell does my name come up in this?”
Then it’s a throwaway comment.
You’re torturing me, admit it?
I know because I used to do the same thing. I’d wait for the middle of a long and fast-moving thread and then I’d just mention the name esprix, and chuckle while picturing him having to read the whole thread just to find out who was talking about him.