Can anyone defend the Admin's diplomacy with Iran drive?

At this rate by the time Obama’s finished there won’t be any need for the Republican Party. That Party’s main reason for bring is to hype up New and used Boogymen, but they blew it on Syria by not wanting to bomb the boogyman there.

Now it’s bomb the Iranian boogyman - no diplomacy allowed.

The American people did not want to bomb Syria. Obama’s approval rating has been falling steadily all year. His approval rating for his handling of Syria is at 36%, and from abc’s latest opinion poll:

The public by a 15-point margin is more apt to say Obama’s performance on Syria has weakened rather than strengthened U.S. global leadership, and six in 10 continue to oppose the missile strikes he urged.

Not seeing a lot of calls for bombing Iran, but maybe my tin foil hat isn’t adjusted right.

Well, there will be diplomacy, regardless of what some so-far unnamed Republicans think.

No it was WMAL Radio in DC area pumping crap into empty minds during the AM commute.

Too bad this was moved to the pit.

The two diplomatic breakthroughs just the past couple weeks could also be setting the stage for gradual optimism on resolving the Syrian civil war.

Ditto heads are incapable of thinking strategically but it must confuse them when their bloated pig leader has been a peacenik for two weeks on Syria but now peace is breaking out with Iran.

Watching ditto heads deal with such anomalies going back and forth is interesting to me.

We have Magiver and Terr to watch as two perfect specimen.

I was hoping to get their diss of Obama diplomacy with Iran.
Other news that must trouble ditto heads and what’s left of the bomb bomb bomb Iran crowd was the Egytian military full scale ban on the Muslim brotherhood.

And there was the news that Hamas is going broke and is in a tiff with Iran.

Israel had high praise for a serious Egyptian military crackdown against extremist operating in the Sinai.

Shia are taking the brunt of the bombings in Iraq and Iran is Shia and must be finding it difficult to stop it.

Interesting things are happening in the part of the world where all was said to be in flames a year ago and it was all Obama’s fault for leading from behind.

If you don’t want your threads moved to the pit, don’t post shit for OPs.

Iran is for Assad, we’re against him – can civil negotiation resolve any of that?

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We have Magiver and Terr to watch as two perfect specimen.

I was hoping to get their diss of Obama diplomacy with Iran.
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So, maybe I’m misunderstanding, but you’re saying you started this thread just to piss off some other posters, by name, whose political opinions you don’t like? Uh, good luck with that.

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Hear hear

WMAL? Don’t you understand Spanish?

Are you having a stroke? Because that’s the only way this thread makes sense.

That’s the problem people are ‘apt to say it’ but are not capable of explaining how or what inducators are out there pointing to any genuine perception that “Obama’s performance on Syria has weakened rather than strengthened U.S. global leadership”.

That phrase is the result of about half the respondents automatically choosing the negative answer when Obama’s name us mentioned and the other half of the other half not understanding the question and not knowing what is happening in Syria.

The last quarter or so are the lefties who think they, with Putin’s help, stopped a war by the war-mongering US Presudent. They think Kumbayaaahhhhh and ‘give peace a chance’ is what forced Putin to reverse his position on Syria’s civil war. Anti-war lefties don’t get to feel their oats too often, so let them have their day and their illusion about what happened the past two weeks regarding Syria.
American leadership is stronger than ever - its mostly that many Democrats don’t have much fondness for militaristic diplomacy.

What’s shit about it?

Isn’t that a Tina Turner song?

What’s not shit about it?

Fooled By W. Embarrassing his political allies on this MB since Feb 2013.

Have you paid attention to the US / Russian transition plan?

Diplomacy did not begin two weeks ago:

Why has Russian intransigence ended?

Here’s a report from two weeks ago that really get’s into the role of Iran… That is why there is not much to edit out.

Serious people would consider having a discussion about the bigger picture as listed above instead of idiotic nonsense from one single statement that right wingers pounce on like monkeys fascinated with the a shiny object that one of them happens to find.

Fired for ending Russian intransigence on the CW issue.

I can see why it is important to get the CW destroyed before moving to the next step of trying to put together a transitional government.

If Russia, Iran, the US, EU and Saudi Arabia can assist the Syrian people in getting a transition government…

That is diplomacy.

Firing Kerry is the stupidest idea even for really stupid people.
And for all those jokers here who scoff at anyone working toward an ideal resolution to civil war in Syria and think they are hot shit to want to wait until it happens… you obviously do not know how diplomacy works. IF you have a cynical and defeatist attitude to start with… nothing happens.
Let’s thank Senator Clinton and Kerry who obviously have been working this for some time. And let’s not be idiots who think that Putin is the diplomat here. Putin is in a mess because his partner is a murderer of Muslims.

This Iran news is overshadowed by the Republicans acting like terrorists here at home… so its not getting proper attention…

But the Republicans will back down shut down or no shut down and then when the media gets bored with that they will get back into Syria and Egypt and Iran and diplomacy.

I can’t wait.

Have you paid attention to the US / Russian transition plan?

Diplomacy did not begin two weeks ago:

Why has Russian intransigence ended on the CW issue?

Here’s a report from two weeks ago that really get’s into the role of Iran… The entire report is relevant, which is why there is not much to edit out.

Serious people would consider having a discussion about the bigger picture as listed above instead of idiotic nonsense from one single statement that right wingers pounce on like monkeys fascinated with the a shiny object that one of the tribe happens to find and is fascinated with it.

Kerry should be fired for ending Russian intransigence on the CW issue? that is nuts.

I can see why it is important to get the CW destroyed with Assad in control before moving to the next step of trying to put together a transitional government.

If Russia, Iran, the US, EU and Saudi Arabia can assist the Syrian people in getting a transition government…

That is diplomacy.

Firing Kerry is the stupidest idea even for really stupid people.
And for all those jokers here who scoff at anyone working toward an ideal resolution to civil war in Syria and think they are hot shit to want to wait until it happens… you obviously do not know how diplomacy works. IF you have a cynical and defeatist attitude to start with… nothing happens.
Let’s thank Senator Clinton and Kerry who obviously have been working this for some time. And let’s not be idiots who think that Putin is the diplomat here. Putin is in a mess because his partner is a murderer of Muslims.

This Iran news is overshadowed by the Republicans acting like terrorists here at home… so its not getting proper attention…

But the Republicans will back down shut down or no shut down and then when the media gets bored with that they will get back into Syria and Egypt and Iran and diplomacy.

I can’t wait.

Yep.

Not necessarily disputing his underlying points, but…yep.

What political allies? Underlying points are underlying points. If the underlying points I make are good, I am not undermining anybody except those who don’t accept the facts. And who cares about them. Facts matter wouldn’t you agree.
Mace wrote something along the lines that he doesn’t care if Saddam had WMD… Anyone who thinks like that is no ally of mine. He also wrote that GWBush was justified to take out Saddam because Saddam didn’t cooperated like he shoulda?

Not exact words Terr, but the point is made.

You sound like a raving lunatic. I have never seen your name in this board, so I have come into this “thread” with no preconceived opinion of you. But after only a few posts, you have set yourself apart from most political thinkers on those board, right or left wing. You stand alone.

I couldn’t understand why this was moved to the pit right after the OP was posted, but now I do. I think the mods were right on target to move it to the pit because you sound like you have broken a spring and are riding off balance.

I don’t think I’m alone in my thoughts either, because this thread seems to be an argument with yourself. And you are losing.

I think** John Mace** nailed it.

This might be the finest example of why “don’t drink and post” should be a sticky in every forum.

Why do more Americans disapprove of Obama’s handling of Iran? He has not asked Congress for authority to bomb Iran.
Anyway you ought to look at all polls about Syria:

Meanwhile there are idiots on this forum who constantly say Obama has NO SUPPORT for strikes… two weeks ago he had 44% supporting them if diplomacy failed to secure them.
I recall polls before the Iraq invasion when nearly 60% did not want Bush to invade Iraq - they wanted inspections to continue.

I guess support from the public does not matter when a dumbass cowboy president is deciderin’ for war… and a ground war at that.