Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?

That’s the problem. “that’s all he asked for.”

Why the fuck should he care if he pisses off Trump and Grassley? He’s headed for the door. If he can’t do the right thing now, there is no situation where he will. Apparently, he thinks voting for this guy is the right thing, which boggles the mind.

He said it live on MSNBC. CNN confirmed and is talking to Coons who has confirmed. Coons will give Flake one last pitch before the final vote. It’s all live though, so I can’t point you anywhere specific.

Nonsense. My house was built in the 80’s has a first floor bathroom, as do neighbors’ houses I’ve visited. Heck, my parents’ house was built in 1910 and had a first floor bathroom.

Looks like Murkowski’s a No on the final vote as well as just on cloture. (Not surprising; why would you vote against cloture if you were ready to vote Yes to confirm?)

So it’s down to Collins and Manchin.

My guess is that whatever Collins decides today, Manchin will do the same. He’s not going to be the 50th Yes vote if Collins votes No, but will regard it as a free Yes vote if Collins goes that way.

But Collins is a weak reed, and she’s consistently telegraphed a willingness to accept any sort of cover for voting Yes. (For instance, yesterday when she called the FBI investigation ‘thorough.’) Can’t say I have much hope.

If only there was some evidence of this, like a calendar or something or maybe a Squee.

Well, sure. The fact that most houses have first-floor bathrooms doesn’t disprove the fact that there are still a fair number of houses out there - including in Bethesda, MD - that don’t.

Nitpick: joking about pooping is potty humor. Jokes about successful you are at fucking women, with a strong rapey vibe, are locker room talk.

psssssst. You misspelled “good.”

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That is why I said it is not dispositive. The poorer house I am familiar with ONLY have first floor bathrooms. That, again, would be up to the trier of fact to determine how much weight to give it.

So, update, 49-49 with Collins and MoJo undecided. My guess is that they are in a room behind three steel walls and four layers of security spooning each other in a non-sexual way to decide how to vote together.

Wait - which one comes with free toppings?

The confirmation…but it is cursed.

Well, the house I grew up in had a hot tub and an unfinished carport. Therefore, anyone saying that lots of houses don’t have hot tubs and unfinished carports are wrong.

Seriously, do you even read what people post?

I was responding to D’Anconia, who seemed to think it was.

The poorer houses I’m familiar with, most of them only have first floors.

Evidence free accusations of child molestation? This is a warning for trolling.

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OK, new polling data. Support for Kavanaugh is at -4% and falling. Interestingly, though, it’s been falling at about the same rate since shortly before the Ford allegations.

On the seemingly all important question “Would you be more or less likely to vote for a Senator who voted to confirm Kavanaugh?”:

Less likely 36%, more likely 27%, neither 37%. And again, the trend has been moving in the anti-Kavanaugh direction for some time now.

So if Collins and Manchin vote for him, it’s either because they really WANT to vote for him or because they have reason to believe their voters differ from the nation as a whole on this issue. That’s IMO much more plausible in Manchin’s case, but then as some have said it seems hard to believe that Manchin would actually be willing to be the 50th vote if it came to that.

Congratulations to Senator Murkowski for her courage.

All of these things are why before trial I talk to people in the community and do other research. If I get in my head that most/almost all/all two story houses have downstairs restrooms, then I use these tools. Sometimes I get a “Yeah, Ultravires, that’s a good point!” Other times, I get pushback.

I use this feedback to make arguments. Sometimes my experiences are correct and sometimes they are an anomaly. As I am posting on a message board, I can think out loud. This is why I hate the comments (not by you) that because I am a lawyer I should know better than X, Y, or Z. We polish our arguments before court. Before you guys? Nah. :slight_smile:

Any word on whatsisname (R-CO)? Rumors last night were that he was still ambivalent and holding meetings with victims groups.

Are you a sex crimes expert? I specifically heard from a sex crimes expert that Ford’s testimony sounded like the testimony of a very young child not a teenager. Her testimony is the evidence, and the interpretation by an expert on the subject matter is the basis of my speculation.

But in this case, what you have in your head is about as well backed up as astrology or phrenology.