It’s a facepalm
Anyone else going to point out this is a privately owned message board and nobody is entitled to any due process protection? The administration can use double jeopardy, ex post facto, bills of attainer, and self-incrimination if it wants to.
Man, that post certainly deserved a warning.
We are also allowed to quarter staff members at your house, so don’t be surprised if a mod shows up for dinner some night.
I bought a moderator a beer once. Does that cover me?
Only if you then told him a funny joke that caused him to laugh the beer out of his nose. For a moderator with a sufficiently-large nose, that might cover you.
It wasn’t me, so I would say no.![]()
Quarter-staffing members is pretty harsh. Even a baton is pretty strong. ![]()
This line of thought seems to be the new knowledge that every social media poster now has. It is a private message board, so all rights can be violated with impunity. Although that is correct, shouldn’t even private companies respect those basic freedoms? They weren’t put in the Constitution for spite; they were put there because they are generally good things that all freedom loving people should like, even private companies.
Also that’s why I asked if double jeopardy could be raised, not demanded that it be enforced.
Are cruel and unusual punishments also on the table? Has this been discussed in the mod loop? ![]()
These rights aren’t being violated. They don’t exist.
You have no more right to due process in this message board than you have a right to vote on who runs it.
And if you stop and think about it, would we really want it to be that way? If we start extended various rights over privately owned property, we would be subject to the same in our own private property. It’s great when you can claim to have the right to speak however you want on somebody else’s message board but you probably wouldn’t be happy when somebody asserts their right to peaceably assemble in your backyard.
Sure, go ahead. Make whatever argument you wish. But keep in mind that the argument you’re making is “That’s unfair” and not “I have my rights”.
Yes, we discuss it all the time. But we haven’t figured out a way to send a shock through the keyboard yet. So once the new board is set up, we’ve arranged to have a large guy named Tony come to your house. ![]()
Yes, we discuss it all the time. But we haven’t figured out a way to send a shock through the keyboard yet. So once the new board is set up, we’ve arranged to have a large guy named Vinnie come to your house. Vinnie is both cruel and unusual. ![]()
Nobody was suggesting that. Private entities are broadly free to choose their policies. Ultravires was pointing out that when a private entity wants to be a forum for public interaction, then good policy choices might well have some overlap with Constitutional principles or other fundamental principles of freedoms and rights.
No. The US Constitution is an agreement between the government of the USA and its citizens. A private company is not the government. The constitution does not apply. The owners of a private message board have the right to restrict speech any way they want, or to ban someone for any reason, or for no reason.
Ironically, freedom of speech can lead to some really bad conversations. We actually have better conversations here because we have an organization that’s monitoring the posts and stopping the problems (including, when necessary, kicking some people out of the conversation). You can see the message boards on other internet sites to appreciate the difference.
I wouldn’t want similar moderation applied in mainstream society. But it works here because we have a administration that’s genuinely interested in promoting good intelligent conversation and not pushing its own agenda (although there are those who have disagreed). And because participation in this board is voluntary; nobody is compelled to be here and anyone who doesn’t like the way the board is run can leave with problems.
oh, gods yall just rearguing the AOL vs whoever case where the USSC pretty much said yep websites are private property and the owner makes the rules and if you violate the rules and get 86’d well tough …