Love, IMHO is an absolute good. I would never act to reduce the amount of love a person feels. If it’s really love that Jules is feeling then it can be a sustaining force in his life without my participation. I would never take that away from him just to get my Mah Jong partner back.
If what he is feeling is obsession, or codependency, or some other negative and destructive emotion easily mistaken for Love, then I would gladly release him from it. Unfortunately, the potion only works on Love.
I have a opinion similar to this one. . . but, I think that if he didn’t love you, you might find he’s not that much of a friend anyway. Because winning your love was likely the major motivation for him being so friendly. . . so, I think you might end up right back where you are.
Hell, no. This never works. It’s like every Mercedes Lackey story ever written…
Hero: We can never be together! I shall love her from afar.
Heroine: We can never be together! I shall love him from afar.
Later: So much for that “never” and “afar” part.
I’m rather in agreement and truth be told, were this a real-world situation, Suzie’s revelation that she is capable of such a feat would probably break me as I can no longer trust that anything I know is real.
You might be thinking of Xander getting Amy to cast the opposite spell, “I wish for the object of my true heart’s desire to fall in love with me,” which, for a 17-year-old boy, is every female he’s ever met. EXCEPT Cordelia, because she was already in love with him. That worked out particularly well, too.
The spell didn’t go as Xander had planned, true enough, but I never got the sense it was because it affected every female he’s ever met. Rather, it affected every female except Cordelia because, due to Amy’s error in casting, the silver locket which was to have focused the spell on Cordelia instead shielded her from the spell’s effects – thus the need for the locket when Giles walks Amy through reversing the spell.
And with all due respect to Xander’s lustful teenage nature, I might accept Joyce, but I find it strains credulity to think that Drusilla and the Sunnydale High cafeteria lady were anywhere close to his “true heart’s desire.”
I would probably end up married to the guy :eek: (yes it happened twice.) For some reason when someone tells me they love me it is like a curse or a spell on me. I feel responsible for them, overly considerate of their feelings, wants, needs, etc. Yikes! And it never works out in any good way for me. Also from my perspective it is always out of the blue. “What did I do? I am not so special. Why do you love me?” I wish I had stuck my fingers in my years saying loudly lalalalalalalalalalalala. Phooey! I HATE people who tell me they love me! :mad:
My brain was doing the same thing! In the end, it’s not up to me to decide what other people think or feel. I would miss his friendship since being around me is too painful for him, but it’s up to him to work out if he can get over that or not.
As much as I think the world would be a better place if I ran everything, until such time as I become Supreme Ruler of the Universe…people get to decide for themselves.
If I am the target and the next time I walk into the room that has my shrine, being not too stupid, I would go Hummmmmmmmmmmm
Now, my love from afar is with a girl from the 6th grade. So that life long feeling is suddenly gone. It seems to me I would have to be someone else entirely because of all the influences it has had on my life.
So, it is a time travel in that the present me has been totally changed because you made a major change in me back in the 6th grade.
I prolly would not have become a pilot. OOPS, how is the spell gona fix all that? What will happen to all the log books, pictures, etc… All the people I will not remember meeting but will they?
I think I’ll go vote for more info now… ::: sigh ::::
I’m putting myself in the “Need more information” camp, though I’m not really sure I do need more information.
In general, I’m siding with all the people who think you don’t have any right to screw with someone’s head, even if it’s “for their own good.” I don’t know what’s for the good of anyone else. Unrequited love sucks… but without that experience, is Jules going to have the emotional maturity to properly express love to his next love interest? We learn things from painful failures. How have I helped Jules if he has to learn this same lesson via unrequited love with someone else?
And, as others have said, maybe time passes and I change my mind. (Though with Jules being a guy and me being hetero… the odds on that are as zero as you get in real life.)
But I keep coming back to wanting more information. For starters, we have access to real gods, including the goddess of wisdom, right? If such beings exist, then maybe it’s realistic to expect an answer about what’s best for Jules from a proper deity.
Furthermore, I reject the idea that I can’t somehow ask for Jules’ opinion. For starters, what’s wrong with saying “Hey Jules, look at this weird poll on the SDMB. What do you think about that?” He’s not aware of what I’d do in any way, but I’m still going to get some good information about what he wants. (And, hey, if the spell is really that fragile that this constitutes being informed, my default position was to not use the potion anyway. Or if I really cannot get any more information, then I’ll just fall back on the default “No way” position.)
Because, unless there is someone hiding in the back story who actually truly loves Jules, this just won’t work. You can’t stop freight trains with loose leaf paper, no matter whats cast on it. There’s magic… and then there’s magic.
No one ever accused Willow of being all that bright…
Having been in Jules’ situation, I can say I wish that my ex had the potion and dosed me with it. I suppose if I was convinced that the unrequited love was bad enough, I might do it. I’d probably end up feeling pretty guilty, though.
How bad is bad enough? I don’t know. If I thought Jules was hurting badly enough to commit suicide, I would definitely say ok. Not sure where the line is, short of that, though.
Is he really, though? This sounds to me like hyperbole (and a half!) - Jules has some feels, and is handling them like a plonker, but that doesn’t make him ill. It makes him human.
Anyway, the fact that you remember being told this, and being disturbed by it, seems to indicate that she’s not willing to do it on you.
What does “plonker” mean?
Assuming it’s something bad, akin to “wanker,” I’m not seeing it. How is being honest about his feelings, accepting a rebuffal gracefully, making and keeping a promise not to bug you, and distancing himself from pain plonkerish?
True enough. But since, in the hypo, you already knew Suzie was a technomage (and presumably that there were techomages with more resources and fewer scruples than she), I expect you’d have already either made peace with it or started work to gain such skills yourself, simply in self-defense.