I apologize for being so blunt earlier, it’s been a long day. A 200-400 (even 500) calorie deficit per diem is not that taxing on the body. Add 20-30 minutes exercise daily, you get 1-2 pounds of fat lost per week. After losing twenty pounds, it shouldn’t be that hard to muster the willpower to break the plateau with more exercise and a different diet. For the majority of overweight people, this would work fine. Most people are just lazy. There are of course exceptions, but the maority of the >60% of this country that are overweight don’t have a metabolic or thyroid disorder.
That is EXACTLY the type of co-workers I have! EXACTLY!
So now your are assuming that I’m scrawny? I have not made any assumptions about you or the size of your ass. Obviously your are insecure with your ass size! Sucks to be you!
As much as I’d like to stay, I’m out the door! It’s Friday night!
Do you have wax in your ears? BECAUSE I HAVE TO LISTEN TO IT ALL DAY!
You’re an idiot, holy shit.
:rolleyes:
I was making a point that your complaint is extremely trivial. If you don’t like it then get some earplugs or a different job, you stupid pigfucker.
**rhinostylee **, you should see the thread they started about the malcontent that does nothing but stare at their asses all day 
Dude, don’t say “pigfucker” in front of j66!
Ditto on the offices filled with junkfood daleja42–and in the same vein–I hate our vending machine at work. I try to take in fruit or crackers with me, but sometimes I forget and need a snack. So what’s available? Chips, Doritos, Cheetos, Candy Bars, HoHos, Snowballs, Four kinds of Cookies, Reeces Cups, M&Ms, and Gum. I counted one day and there are 65 slots in the machine. 65! And they can’t spare one for some pretzels or animal crackers or even a mini rice cakes or something? It’s ridiculous.
As to the main controversy brewing here, I’m of two minds. In a way, I’m with the OP on how annoying it is to listen to people harp on about their diets and what they can and can’t eat and their special requirements when people want to order out. But in my office it’s all the men and they don’t have huge asses.
Oh the other hand, I think he’s crossing a line with his assumptions about weight and how easy and simple it would be for any random person to lose a significant amount. I’ve been trying recently, and with my lifestyle it’s really, really hard.
Finally, to Isla–I think in many cases “lazy” could be replaced with “busy”. A lot of people find it very difficult to put aside 30+ minutes a week for themselves, let alone a day. In my experience, anyway. Your first comment in this thread tickled me like hell though, so I’ll cut you some slack and pretend like you knew that but just forgot to mention it. 
Thanks. No intent to offend.
Get up half an hour earlier? Jog between your buildings? Hell, there are exercises that were designed to be done in an office chair!
With rare exception, there is always a way to work in some exercise.
What about me, Ilsa? After a couple days of exercise, my skin gets inflamed, starts cracking and weeping and itching, and generally makes me miserable. I’d be open to ideas.
You’d be an exception. As I stated three times. As an aside, why the hell does that happen?
Ilsa, you were well brought up, weren’t you?
I think we’re on the same page here; I just worry a lot about people who torture themselves trying to lose weight. They can really screw themselves up. But this is not the post for that.
But as for tallking about it? I spent an entire night chatting up an insurance salesman at a party because everyone else was talking about the diet d’jour.
And both term and whole life have their place in a carefully planned estate …
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You should have seen me trying to figure out ‘null kit’; I was clueless.
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I’d like to think so. The benefits of being polite and kind are one of the most important things I have ever learned. I just forget sometimes.
I agree wholeheartedly. I know some people who seriously damaged their metabolism eating a salad a day in high school, and who now can’t keep the weight off.
I get up at 5:30 every morning with the baby. He doesn’t much like to jazzercize.
Not sure what kind of buildings you mean here, I go from House–>Car–>Daycare–>Car—>Work and then reverse it at the end of the day. On half of those trips I’m carrying a baby, two or three bags, and trying to shoo along a toddler.
Really? Ones that increase the heartrate significantly enough to actually achieve weight loss? I’d genuinely be interested in that, because all of the “work in your chair” exercises I’ve ever read were for toning or general stretching, not really a “work out” that would target fat.
You’re right. For about a month and a half I managed to work in a trip to the gym three nights a week. I found that housework and financial stuff was gradually being neglected because of that lost time. I wouldn’t be able to make decent meals for my kids because by the time I’d get home from the gym it’d be nearly bedtime. Worse, I was taking them from one daycare to another and then to a rushed night routine and I felt like shit about it. Ultimately, I decided that the benifits from going to the gym regularly were not worth the sacrifices they demanded. I go now on weekends sometimes, but I’m not kidding myself that those trips are having any appreciable effect on my weight.
I’m not trying to be the “fat advocate” here or anything. And I’m not trying to defend my own weight. I’m just saying that I don’t think I’m alone in my situation. Do I like being chubby? Not really. Am I intelligent enough to be aware of what I’d need to do to change that? Of couse. I think most overweight people are. But, for a myriad of reasons, they can’t make those changes; and assuming that it’s simply because they’re stupid or lazy tastes a bit judgemental to me. Everyone has their own priorities, you know?
We (the dermatologist and I) have no idea. But a lot about my allergies/skin problems is baffling.
I haven’t checked all the posts carefully, but have you tried all natural fiber clothing and perfume- and dye-free body and laundry soaps and detergent? Please note that some products that claim to be perfume-free do have a ‘masking fragrance’.
Allergies can develop at any time of life.
I do throw out hives after exercise, at times; a long shower with d&f free glycerin body soap usually helps. I prefer to exercise at night so if I do get hives I can take Bendryl.
Even your vitamin tablets can have dyes in them; if you have recently switched brand that could cause a problem.
I use dye and fragrance-free, sensitive skin soaps and detergeants, wear only 100% cotton clothes, sleep on 100% cotton, plain white sheets, don’t eat any weird foods, don’t own any pets, use Lubriderm for Sensitive Skin at least once a day, so on and so forth.
huh.
When I saw the title, I thought you worked at KFC…
Lots of posts missing the point and flaming you for bringing up fatness in general. That is not the OP’s point. I have to say I completely understand the OP. I work in the same atmosphere. It’ s not that they are fat (well they are fat, but their fatness is of no concern to me), it’s the way they whine and complain about it constantly, like it’s some plaque when it’s their own damn fault. We get goodies in our office day in and day out … appreciative patients … baked goods … some pretty tasty, and some disgusting concoctions … all full of fat and sugar in some form. But it doesn’t matter if the item tastes like shit, tastes yummy, nor if it’s after lunch and they are not really hungry…whatever ends up on our breakroom calls out to my co-workers “eat me eat me” until they gobble it all down. There is always some sort of prologue prior to the gluttony: “Oh, I shouldn’t eat this, I’ve gained so much weight since working here.” “Oh who brought in the brownies? How could they? Now I HAVE to eat them!” “Nobody look, I’m going to eat these cookies, if you don’t look, they don’t count!” And on and on and on.
Just eat the damn things and shut up! Your guilt, your complaining, your proclamations of intent to eat the entire pan (said jokingly but probably what you’d like to do) will not change the outcome of your gluttony. Calories in must equal calories out. Accept it, have some self control … why is that so hard? Otherwise, quit griping about being overweight…just fix the problem for gawd’s sake. And very few people are obese because of metabolic disease. It’s pure and simple, we are getting bigger and bigger, and it’s our own damn faults. And it’s very interesting all the threads about being overweight, being out of shape, and lack of self control, and how hard it is. IT’S NOT. Stop the extrinsic focus of blame and turn that to intrinsic blame, take charge and do something about it.
Now if I can just direct my co-workers here…
Not much of a point. The majority of the SDMB is extremely trivial, the rest is only slightly trivial. There might be 1% that isn’t trivial at all. 