Can right and left agree on anything?

What’s wrong with people beating up neo-nazis? :confused:

:smack:

Congratulations, you are part of the problem.

Where is it correct? Conservatives tend to favor government-funded and government-controlled military, police force, justice system, and much more. Does that make conservatives socialist? If not, why does a relatively small difference in the role of government in a small number of industries (chiefly health care) make liberals socialist?

It’s all a matter of degree. The link in the OP is ridiculous black-and-white nonsense and outright fantasy. That’s not real-world liberals; that’s fantasy-world liberals.

That’s not why Nazis support Trump. They support him because he shares their views and they believe he will further their Nazi goals. They’ve said so. That’s why they dress like him while they show their love of America and their patriotism by shouting “Blood and soil!”

It’s fucking weird that you would view “love of America” and “patriotism” as part of a political platform one would support. And in Trump’s case it’s also inappropriate; Trump spent most of his campaign talking about how America was a real shithole. But mostly it’s just weird.

Congratulations, you are not terribly bright.

No, that’s this guy.

I find it fucking weird that he’s calling the left “fascist” when his side includes actual Nazis and politicians who support those actual Nazis.

Actually, I don’t find it weird. I find it pathetic, and a clear indication that he’s accepted just how ‘deplorable’ the people he’s defending are and is scrabbling desperately for any straws of false equivalence he can grasp.

Small government is probably good for small countries. Luxembourg, Andorra, no prob. But if you’re determined to be a major power and play Risk for keeps…

Gallant brings his date flowers.
Goofus grabs them by the pussy!

I for one am willing to engage Clothahump and DUCKofDEATH in serious discussion. I’m sure the two of us will get along fine.

I agree. The rule of law must be upheld - victimless crimes are still crimes.

The Democrats don’t have a monopoly on the violent antifa members. Dwight D. Eisenhower, for instance, was a violent antifa, and he was a Republican.

It is true, however, that the number of Republican antifas seems to be seriously diminished, nowadays.

I don’t plan on addressing most of the OP. It’s been addressed better. But I do want to point out one thing:

I am liberal specifically because of my Judeo-Christian values. There are two issues that conservatives seem to mean when they claim that they are about Christian values, and that’s abortion and homosexuality. As I have pointed out many times, abortion is never mentioned in the Bible, so, whatever your opinion on it, that is not a biblical principle. The other is more complicated, based on homophobia actually influencing Biblical translation. Basically, Paul had words he could use for actual homosexuality, but chose words that seem closer to damning pederasty instead.

So, leaving those two out, there really is nothing about conservatism that appeals to Biblical values at all. Instead, it is liberalism that aligns closest to what the Bible teaches. Hell, we still keep putting up Christian candidates, while you wind up electing not only an atheist, but one who violates Christian principles left and right.

The Bible is against racism. It says to give to the poor. It rejects the idea that rich people deserve their money. It says to pay your taxes. It says to put God’s law (morality) above man’s law. It hates legalism, which is the foundation of conservative legal analysis. It teaches love and compassion and not saying harsh words to people, so it preaches political correctness. Jesus said that those who live by the sword die by the sword, having no problem with restrictions on arms. We are to be kind and help foreigners who are in our lands, for goodness sake.

The values of the Bible, the ones that don’t require following a particular religion, all seem to align with what we in this country consider liberal values. They say the best lie the Devil told was that he doesn’t exist, but I’d say the second best was convincing people that conservatism aligns with Christian values. There’s a reason so many “Christian” conservatives elected Trump.

Yeah, there are nice Nazis… Not!

Here is a picture of what real patriots did to the Nazis that the new ones of today are following:

https://onsizzle.com/i/real-american-patriots-fight-nazis-democratic-exactly-18495513

Indeed.

Stalking you? I was in this thread before you were, you pustule. Since you inject your puerile input all over the Pit, it’s not really possible to avoid you. “Stalking” you would be like stalking cockroaches.

Once again, if you don’t want to be insulted, then stay out of the fucking pit, snowflake.

Calling Clothahump an asshole, a cunt, or a troll is like saying that The Orville is “somewhat derivative”.

I’ll call you on that one, bucky. Please show conclusive proof that the lawnmower incident didn’t happen. Also show conclusive proof that my intent in this thread was “pure trolling”.

Put up or shut up.

I’m willing to concede that you are an idiot instead, if you are.

Yes, I agree we all need to come together and come to the compromise middle ground where you agree that I’m right about everything and I agree that you are the spawn of satan.

This. Just ban the gutless trolling filth.