Can Scott Walker be re-elected Governor of Wisconsin?

On jobs, the economy, and the budget, his policies have been far from shit in their effect. His charisma isn’t great, but that’s not a problem since he won’t be likely to face a Democrat with a great deal of charisma. Barack Obama and Bill Clinton ain’t running.

I think his biggest problem is twofold:

  1. He’s too confrontational. The public wants a uniter, which is why both of our most recent Presidents ran promising to be uniters. Well, they weren’t. Walker won’t even be able to credibly make that claim. He’s a fighter, which is fine if you want to get the base supporting you, but I don’t know that independents will be interested in another 4-8 years of partisan warfare.

  2. He might be corrupt. I recognize that a lot of the investigations into him are partisan warfare because he’s so hated, but they don’t seem to be made up out of whole cloth either. Voters are going to want change, and Scott Walker reeks of “typical dishonest politician”.

On the bright side, he has been effective and voters will want that too. I just think that the perception of Hillary Clinton is that she’ll already fill that role. To beat Clinton, you need someone who voters will feel is a more unifying figure and more honest than she is.

I met with Gov. Walker before the election. We are doing a seven figure plant expansion and Ron Johnson and “easy on the eyes” Rebeca Kleefisch were there with my buddy Scott.

Those who say he has no charisma have not seen him work a crowd.
Guy with a Harley jacket- shoot the shit about which are best roads in Wisconsin for a bike ride.
Packers fan- share how the Vikings saved $100,000 on their new stadium because they don’t need a trophy room.
Viking fan- tell the joke about the dog in the bar who is a big Bears fan. Enemy of my enemy, you know.

You guys hear about his hunting accident?
If you look at his recent photos he has a bandage on his right hand.
The local paper got the facts wrong, but for 14 internet points I will tell you the real deal.

He did share his thoughts about minimum wage changes. He said he is working to make happen jobs like my company will create.
Jobs that pay two, three, or four times minimum wage , no degree required.
Pay depends if you can program Fanuc robots and PLCs, among other things.

Usually presidential candidates win landslides in their home states because their popularity has soared due to great job performance. His solid, but far from landslide win, is not at all indicative of good performance. He needed tens of millions of outside dollars and political tyro for an opponent to win. Aside from that, he’s inarticulate. Not Sarah Palin bad, but certainly far from glib.

Walker has zero chance at the top of a GOP ticket. I suppose he could be a Spiro Agnew type Veep.

Just like he had zero chance of being re-elected and escaping indictment. Gotcha.

In related news, stock prices for the “Walker for President” T-shirt company just doubled.

Regards,
Shodan

I love how you make confident predictions, get proven wrong, and…with zero embarrassment go right back to making confident predictions.

And it’s a rational strategy here, because there’s no social penalty here. Your wrong predictions were in the service of the Left. All is forgiven.

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You can’t just toss that tidbit out there and not tell the joke. Gimme, gimme, gimme. :smiley:

Guy goes into a sports bar and the bartender notices he has something under his coat.
The bartender sees a tail sticking out and says" You can’t bring a dog in here"
Guy pleads " my cables out and we gotta see the Bears play, my dog is a huge fan".
The bartender raises an eyebrow in disbelief " OK, but sit in the back"

After the Bears get a touchdown, the dog goes nuts, tail wagging , running in circles, howling.

“Wow, he is a huge fan” the bartender goes “What does he do when they win?”
Guy shrugs" I don’t know, I have only had him two years"

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Didn’t Gore lose his home state when he ran for POTUS?

Tens of millions of outside dollars were spent to not elect Walker, twice, and both efforts failed. A lot of outside money was spent on a recall that failed. A lot of time, effort, and money is being spent on yet another attempt to indict Walker. The first one failed because there was no evidence of wrong doing on Walker’s part. Is there any actual, credible evidence against Walker this time? Except for the horseshit offered up by MSNBC/DNC spokesmodel Ed Schultz, of course.

hehehehe. :smiley:

What new fake claim will we see talked up against Walker?

“Will Walker be indicted?” Two years of hinting at a Walker indictment, reassuring sympathetic listeners that a Walker indictment was imminent.

What’s the next tactic?

No, there was no evidence.

According to this, prosecutors seem to be admitting they never had a case.

GAB, Milwaukee County DA bail on key provision behind war on conservatives

Bricker, if you have the time, could you give your opinion of the filing.
Does it mean what the Wisconsin Reporter thinks it means?

GAB, Milwaukee County DA bail on key provision behind war on conservatives

It seems to me that an article which has a title that references a “war on conservatives” might not be as unbiased and non-partisan as one might hope.

I still say that Governors should be held to the highest ethical standards and if they break the law, they should pay the price. Some disagree with this. They disappoint me. I am concerned: this sort of thing makes all conservatives look bad, when many in fact are fine upstanding citizens.

There is no question of whether Scott Walker will be indicted: that has already happened. In Mississippi. For fraud against the City of D’Iberville. He is serving an 18 month sentence while his fellow politician with the same name was re-elected to Governor of Wisconsin last week.

Politifact gives the rundown of the cases launched by Milwaukee County District Attorney John Chisholm. The first, “…grew out of a request by Walker’s county office to Chisholm to probe whether money was stolen from Operation Freedom, a Walker-run event for military veterans.” Five convictions were secured by Feb 2013, including one involving illegal donations to the Walker campaign. So no, this isn’t about phoney fishing expeditions. It’s about enforcing the law.

The second probe investigates, “…whether Walker illegally coordinated fundraising among conservative groups to help his campaign and those of Republican state senators facing recall elections during 2011 and 2012.” Some think that it doesn’t matter whether or not Walker is a hardened criminal: he won. It crosses their mind. I say the case merits careful investigation. Some judges have blocked further investigation after a review of the evidence acquired so far, others at the appellate level have overturned those decisions, allowing investigation to go forward. I say we are a nation of laws, not men.

Source: Poltifact, as part of an Oct 23, 2014 take-down of an ad by Mary Burke. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2014/oct/23/mary-burke/mary-burke-ad-leaves-impression-scott-walker-cente/

“He won reelection and I didn’t vote for him, nobody I know voted for him, therefore his reelection was fraudulent!”
Or something like that?

(I’ve got some free time, can I be part of the conservative echo chamber like the liberals here have?)

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*A long time ago in a state far,
far away…

“Episode IV: A New Hope”

It is a period of civil war.
Republican spaceships, striking from a
hidden base, have won their
first victory against the evil
Democratic Empire. During the battle,
Rebel spies managed to steal
secret plans to the Empire’s ultimate
weapon, the Vague Unprovable Indictment, an
armored spacey stationary with enough power to
destroy an entire planet. Pursued by the
Empire’s sinister agents, Scott Walker
races home along with his constituents,
custodian of the future plans that can save
his people and restore freedom to the

galaxy*…
In the beginning , there was John Doe I, which failed to turn up any evidence against Scott Walker. That was followed up by John Doe II, which doesn’t seem to be based on facts but only on the delusions of Democrat Milwaukee County District Attorney John “Jar Jar Binks” Chisholm.
“da da’s case against conservatives hing onda unusual – as of tuesday, indefensible – read of stata campaign law:chisholm has tri to argue da any political speech (for example,a television ad support lower taxes) da might produce support for a specific candidata ganna be regulat if he ganna find evidence da da speakers coordinat with da candidata.”

http://jar-jar-binks.com/translator.jsp

John Doe I secured 5 convictions. Criminals were punished.

The unanimous decision by a 3 judge panel disagrees with you. Furthermore, they essentially denounced the Judge who squashed the investigation as a hack: [INDENT]“What we have said shows not only that an injunction was an abuse of discretion but also that (as prosecutors) all defendants possess qualified immunity from liability in damages.” [/INDENT] The judges of that panel were appointed by 2 Republican and 1 Democratic administration. I stand with the law.

Link: http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/johndoe25-b99358722z1-276976981.html

Given what happened, it’s not hyperbole. The DA was actually trying to target conservative groups who were spending on the election. Liberals, of course, see this as wise enforcement of campaign finance laws. With SWAT teams.

But John Doe I didn’t convict Scott Walker of anything.

And this decision from the 7th, concerning John Doe II, doesn’t seem to be the last word about whether the investigation will continue.

Same linked article -
In overturning a ruling made earlier this summer by U.S. District Judge Rudolph Randa in Milwaukee, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago didn’t restart the investigation. That is because a state judge has also put the case on hold in a decision that is undergoing its own separate appeal.

I think you’re confused. Or maybe I am confused about what you’re saying.

The unanimous decision of the three judge panel reversed Judge Randa’s decision that the probe violated the First Amendment rights of the probe’s targets and that the prosecutors could be personally liable for damages.

The three judge panel said that the prosecutors were immune and that the First Amendment theory was such new law that, even if it were true, the prosecutors did not act in bad faith by investigating.

That’s different than Judge Peterson’s decision halting the investigation because the conduct that the prosecutors allege is not actually criminal.

So far as I know, no one has suggested that that judge was a hack.

Which one were you discussing?

When the governor of a state surrounds himself with criminals, it’s proper to throw them in jail. That’s what happened. At least one of the convicted was sentenced to 6 months in the slammer.

The wheels of justice turn slowly but grind fine. Judge Easterbrook noted the outrageous over-reach by Judge Randa: “Until the district court’s opinion in this case, neither a state nor a federal court had held that Wisconsin’s (or any other state’s) regulation of coordinated fundraising and issue advocacy violates the First Amendment. …It is not possible to treat as ‘bad faith’ a criminal investigation that reflects (the U.S. Supreme Court’s) interpretation of the First Amendment.”

Simply. Not. Possible.

The article also notes that, “Randa also has come under attack for issuing a favorable ruling for the Archdiocese of Milwaukee in its bankruptcy case without disclosing a possible conflict of interest. That decision is on appeal.”

I say conflicts of interest should be disclosed and those hesitant to do so should be treated with appropriate suspicion.

Hell if I know. I was just working off of that one article. Frankly I’m surprised that I couldn’t dig up more info. It seems you are correct: the article says, “State John Doe Judge Gregory Peterson in January quashed the subpoenas that had been issued in the investigation, ruling he did not believe anything illegal had transpired. The decision, which remains under appeal, effectively shut down the investigation.”

But here’s a May 2014 article where Randa reportedly halts a five county probe. It mentions Judge Peterson, but indicates that Judge Randa is doing the blocking. May comes after January, so there are conflicting accounts.
Fun and games aside, I don’t have a clear grasp at what’s going on. I am highly dubious about the contention that this is a bogus investigation given the 5 convictions secured earlier. That doesn’t mean Walker is guilty. It doesn’t even mean the investigation should continue. It does imply that claims that this is purely political prosecutorial over-reach are hot air. There’s a lot of millionaire money sloshing around in Wisconsin and to simply dismiss attempts to enforce the law is inappropriate.

That said, apologies to Judge Randa if sent too much hyperbole his way. I do maintain that conflict of interest disclosures exist for a reason.