A fit of laughter at your inability to even know what my position is, even on this ridiculous tangent?? In multiple threads over literally years? It’s hard to do that. So, just to be clear here, you want me to support a position (that is tangential to even the thread itself) I haven’t taken and have zero interest in playing spin the stat over, and you accused me of being ‘anti-science’ over? Hell, I said up thread (not that you noticed) that there is obviously some correlation, even if it’s not 1 to 1 over having guns and getting gun based homicides…zero guns and zero gun deaths and all that.
Yeah, no thanks. You guys can keep on spinning on this one…I have zero interest in something that, to me, is obvious wrt an association between guns and gun deaths and matters fuck all wrt what can or should be done about US shootings.
Not nearly as helpful as your…whatever it was that you were doing. Your contribution, as always, was…something. And it was my pleasure sharing the emoticon with you, Hentor. Always a pleasure old boy. I’m sure we’ll be doing this again, since you seem to be a boundless pool of strawmen and disingenuous posts, especially on this subject.
“The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday rejected a challenge by gun rights activists to a Chicago suburb’s ordinance banning assault weapons and large-capacity magazines, handing a victory to gun control advocates amid a fierce debate over the nation’s firearms laws.”
So the definition of registration in this context is what? On file with the government? Aren’t the forms that ARE filled out on file with the gun stores now? For the sales that require the form to be completed of course.
This is so discordant with my posts on this subject that I am dubious you know what either “strawmen” or “disingenuous” actually mean. Please specify or retract.
Yes, the registration data is there. It is held by the selling or transferring dealer for the lifetime of his license. The forms are to be surrendered upon request by ATF or local agencies.
All that is missing is a central database to store everything. The NICS background check system sort of does so, but the data is supposedly scrubbed after 90 days for yes results and 10 years for rejected requests.
Currently it is against the law to have a Federal gun registry other than for class III weapons or accessories.
What does this mean? I looked at the form, it says the seller must retain the form for 20 years for an approved NICS check, and 5 years for a denied one.
So when the NICS request is received, the government deletes any record of the request after 90 days, assuming it was approved? If that is the case, then ok, I understand now.
Yes but gun violence by itself is a relatively meaningless statistic. You might as well say more nun-chuks = more nun-chuk violence.
There are probably at least some people who would not commit suicide in the absence of guns but I am almost positive that the number is much much smaller than 20,000 people.
Hell, I said up thread (not that you noticed) that there is obviously some correlation, even if it’s not 1 to 1 over having guns and getting gun based homicides…zero guns and zero gun deaths and all that.