Have you seen the bluetooth cassette adapters? It’s a cassette tape that is a bluetooth receiver. I’ve never tried one. In my 2000 car the cassette player is too sophisticated for its own good. If it doesn’t detect tension, it reverses or stops, so the cassette to aux style adapters don’t work. I ripped out the whole radio and replaced it with something that sounds better and cost like $100.
Not a KC fan? During their loss on Sunday to one of the lowest ranked teams, they put up stats of how many yards her boyfriend gets on games she goes to compared to games she misses. If I remember correctly, he performs twice as well when she is in the stands.
I guess ol’ Mickey was wrong all this time. Maybe Rocky would have won if he didn’t force celibacy on the poor guy. The guy was beaten to a pulp and all he wanted was his girlfriend!
The part that I hate is that Swifties demand that you like her. I heard her and I didn’t hear a thing that stood out as hers. I also didn’t hear anything adventurous. It was all way too safe for me.
Perhaps all the Swifties should move to North Korea where there’s laws to tell you how to wear your hair.
I know nothing about Taylor Swift or her fans in particular, and only popped in here because I was curious about how long running this thread has been.
Based on long experience it is massively implausible to me that a fanbase (any fanbase) doesn’t contain a substantial proportion of fans who proselytise. It is a feature of any fanbase I’ve ever come across. I doubt that (per @martyg) Swifties proselytise any more than many other fanbases. I doubt that (per you) they don’t proselytise.
Surely you have come across fans who say “you’ve got to listen to this” and “you have to admit this is great”?
Yes I would use the word demand. And I certainly would not say many fans “don’t give a crap” about whether you like what they do, because that would be grossly inaccurate.
And yes there is probably an element of hyperbole in “demand” but then there is also a (strong) element of hyperbole in how many fans talk about their heroes.
Yeah, when the poster you replied to proclaimed about Taylor Swift fans that:
… that suggests that the poster in question is perceiving the enthusiastic proselytizing of “Swifties” as way, way, WAY more fanatical and dictatorial than the sort of “demand” that Princhester is talking about.
If we’re using North-Korea-level enforcement of conformity as the yardstick, I agree with you that Swift-fan “demands” along the lines of “you’ve got to listen to this” and “you have to admit this is great” are essentially equivalent to “not giving a crap whether you like Taylor Swift or not”.
If you’re a 14 year old girl in middle school, I can believe you might have some overly pushy peers who demand you like Taylor Swift or else there’s something wrong with you.
If you’re an adult out in adult society, while I’m sure you might have some Swifties peers, I can’t believe that you’re getting ‘persecuted’ for refusing to join the cult. I guess if you’re actively engaging in a debate about her music, people will be pushy in response. Just day to day? I dunno… maybe you need some new friends.
As an aside, the few fans I’ve bothered to talk to about it all seem to enjoy the woman-centric nature of it. My wife just saw the Eras film and described it as a ‘safe space’ in the theatre; just a bunch of women vibing to the music and show without self consciousness or judgment. I doubt many men are getting actively harassed to become Taylor Swift superfans.
I am in high school and while a lot of my girls are Swifties, none of them are evangelical about it. They do find it amusing that I like her too, though. In fact, she was part of an essay prompt they had a few weeks ago on economic impacts on local economies.
This did/does not seem to be the case in my kids’ school.
Kids today have quite an eclectic mix of music, I find. Quite a lot of it is from Tiktok and comes fairly removed from the old popstar personality machine. Or else it’s K-Pop, and while there is an element of intense fandom there, it’s not the proselytizing kind.
The ones that proselytise the most in my experience are fans of Beatles, Frank Zappa (hoo boy can that get insufferable), King Crimson and anything Robert Fripp ever had anything to do with, Radiohead, Nirvana, and now Swifties. I find it difficult to deal with because before the rave era I was artist based, and post-rave I’m genre based. I’d say about 70% of my collection are anonymous DJs. I don’t find it worth it to go on like that about anyone, but if I were going to proselytise, it would be over Pere Ubu or Henry Cow, my two all-time favourite rock bands. I’d describe them as too out for mass consumption, and they’re the Big Holdovers. Perhaps I should mention that the audiophile crowd doesn’t seem to be able to comprehend how to consume any singles/song oriented genre, and EDM is certainly that.
To give you some time perspective, I’m 56 years old, and the shift away from The Album As The Only Musical Statement Worth Considering happened around 1987. The JAMs album 1987 was the one that converted me, but it’s not like you would ever hear anything from it on the radio. Around that time I went into an EDM shop and there were no albums, despite the shop being full of records. I thought that was extraordinary, and that moment was the watershed.