Well, as long as she has her fans and is selling out music, concerts and merch she’d be a big fool to stop.
She’ll stop one day. She’ll be passe’. The next big thing will come on the scene. And, poof it’s gone.
I hope she’s investing well.
Change your radio station or subscription service if you don’t wanna hear. I use earphones at my house. Shuts her right up.
I don’t ever see her “stopping”. Unless some life event makes her decide to retire.
Eventually she might be playing a show in Vegas but she’ll still be going. Or she’ll be like Elton John or Billy Joel or the Stones and playing sold out stadiums into her twilight years. Whatever she wants, really.
Yeah, I don’t run into her much.
There is always a generation after will not even consider her. Paul McCartney did that single with Kanye West (sigh) and the reaction “who’s this new Paul McCartney guy?” was very much a real thing. I experienced it. Of course I was shocked at first, but I understand why that happens.
Another parallel – before e-tickets were a thing and you could order on-call, I went to see Alice Cooper, and queued at the window to pick up my physical ticket. There was an extended family behind me, and one of the twenty somethings asked who he is. I asked her if she knew Marilyn Manson. She said “sort of.” She then told me what she knew about Marilyn Manson, mostly that he scared stuffy types. I said “well, that’s rock and roll, and Alice Cooper was extremely good at that when he was the hottest thing going.”
https://variety.com/2023/music/news/taylor-swift-fans-argentina-camping-out-eras-tour-1235778141/
Taylor Swift Fans in Argentina Have Camped Out in Tents for Five Months in Order to Be Front Row at the Eras Tour: ‘People Are Very Upset With Us’
…fans have been “occupying four tents outside the stadium, taking turns in carefully planned rotations. … An internal spreadsheet, created by two organizers and updated by assigned administrators, keeps track of around 60 folks per tent. Most of them are young women, but no one under 18 is allowed. Based on a ranking system gathering everybody’s total time, the longer you’ve been in a tent, the higher the chances of being one of the first in line.”
Sure, but McCartney can still sell out a stadium to Boomers and older Gen Xers. By the time he can’t, it won’t be an issue for him. When Swift is in her 70s, maybe middle school girls won’t know who she is but she’ll probably still be selling as many tickets as she wants to.
Something like Madonna? I’m actually enjoying all the “old fossil” memes.
She’s currently on her 10th career #1.
And as we all know massive sales are proof of artistic integrity (Crazy Frog). Never underestimate the power of the currency (Hey, Macarena, AIGHT!). It has never failed (Disco Duck).
Try Stevie Wonder and Whitney Houston, not Rick Dees and Los Del Rio.
No, thank you. My ears were terrorized the first time around.
“Sometimes a fun song gets popular so popular musicians must not have the same integrity, man” isn’t really a great argument.
Unless the intent is to come across as surly and bitter that your sacred cow acts can’t move albums. Then it’s an awesome argument.
You can compare her to a novelty act if you want, but the facts are that she’s one of the most commercially successful musicians of the last 100 years, and once the Eras Tour is over it’ll probably he the most well-attended and profitable tour in the history of entertainment.
She’s not a flavor of the month and people 50 years from now will probably be talking about her with the same kind of reverence Boomers reserve for the Beatles.
I can’t decide if it is nuts or good fun:
According to Pitchfork, fans have been “occupying four tents outside the stadium, taking turns in carefully planned rotations. … An internal spreadsheet, created by two organizers and updated by assigned administrators, keeps track of around 60 folks per tent. Most of them are young women, but no one under 18 is allowed. Based on a ranking system gathering everybody’s total time, the longer you’ve been in a tent, the higher the chances of being one of the first in line.”
“The fact that there are so many people makes things easier,” a 20-year-old named Irina told Pitchfork, adding that her mother is comfortable with her camping out as long as she doesn’t get bad grades in college. “We all have different schedules, and you fit yours amongst them.”
Per the publication: “Sleepovers are now mandatory at least once a month, alongside a minimum of 60 monthly hours, to maintain one’s spot.” - SOURCE
When you’re in your 20s, those are often the same thing.
I find that highly misplaced too. I mean, consider the genius and depth of “Run For Your Life.”
Actually, I prefer them to destroy their chances of that sort of hero worship by going off the rails. Neil Young is a great example, but I’m not terribly fond of him. Pleasant once in a while but not all the time. Todd Rundgren is another great example, whom I can say I have followed his entire career. He smashed through with Something?/Anything and then suddenly A Wizard, A True Star and then the first Utopia album But it’s not like I would ever proselytise about him or them. Neither of them fully destroyed it, but they appear to have tried very hard to do so. .
They can’t all be winners. Even Mozart wrote a song about eating ass.
Yes but Mozart had serious talent that’s stood the test of time. I could be wrong but I don’t think Taylor Swift will have the same name recognition 400 years from now.
My point exactly. Not many people know about Mozart’s bawdy party songs, but he had Frank Zappa’s sense of humour in spades. There’s that lovely melody that has the text about shitting the bed and letting it explode. Someone told Margaret Thatcher about the bawdy party songs and her reaction was “He wrote such beautiful music. He couldn’t have been like that.” The response from the person informing her was “but, I’m sorry, he was very much like that.” Maggie’s response was “I don’t think you could have heard me. He couldn’t have been like that.” That’s the sort of blind hero worship I’m talking about.