SunGazer popped up in a thread on hypothetical asymmetrical nuclear war, and made a comment about the USA being properly a republic not a democracy, which I have heard from various GOP partisans before. But SG was not a typical rightie, more America First/isolationist I thought.
Oh.* Oh.* And here I thought he was some kind of Ron Paul fan.
OK, guys, try and be civil, we have a confused person here who really misunderstands how the legal system works. These “freeman on the land” types are prime targets for con men, besides getting themselves in trouble by their own confusion.
This would be a great time to actually fight ignorance instead of just viciously mocking it. Hate the ignorance, not the ignoramus!
Oh, who’m I kidding, there’s gonna be a Pit Thread with 20 posts of self-righteous hate, and the poor guy will just slink away disgusted with us and then get himself incarcerated massively into debt on some “sovereign citizen” scheme.
Between their username and their comment in this zombie thread, I suspect they may be a proponent of “Sungazing”, which is exactly what it sounds like and enough to get them flamed by itself.
People who walk the ‘Sovereign Citizen’ or ‘Freeman’ path have no connection to reality and are relatively immune to logical arguments about their position. I may be wrong and maybe this one will be unlike all the others and actually demonstrate some intelligence and critical thinking skills, but I wouldn’t bet on it. Especially when said person thinks it a good idea to introduce their views via hijacks of more than one thread on other topics.
And really, this belongs in the Pit, since it is not about board administration or moderator behavior.
Hey, I’m just trying to have a conscience about how I treat confused people. I think we do the self-righteous piling on too quickly sometimes. SG is a kooky libertarian, and I could see the annoyance at the “dumb new guy” coming, and wanted people to actually try to explain why his ideas are crazy, not just be the jerkwads we often are.
Good grief, I used to believe in hard money. People on this board helped me get past that. Ignorance is not the same as unteachableness.
I thought your other thread started out appropriately sympathetic. Believe you me, no one would like to save fools from scammers more than me, but there’s just not a lot we can do over the internet. You may need to content yourself with the idea that people like Sungazer are a lost cause but you can still expose the absurdity of their arguments to the invisible crowd of lurkers.
“Ok, I’ve been told to stop hijacking this thread, so here’s a ton of links that are completely unrelated to it and oh, could you delete my membership?”
