I thought this had long been understood to be out of line: that assuming neither of us is a mod, I can’t tell you to get out of my thread, and you can’t tell me to get out of yours.
But in Broomstick’s Pitting of elucidator, Broomstick says to 'luc:
I reported this, and three different mods have participated in the thread as posters since I reported it, without speaking up in their capacity as mods.
So it’s now OK for one poster to tell a fellow poster to GTFO of a thread? There’s certainly been times I’ve wished it was OK to say that.
(It’s especially weird in this case because Pitting someone is pretty much an invitation to the Pittee to come down and get the abuse they deserve. But I don’t think that changes anything.)
I won’t speak for Miller. The BBQ Pit requires a special approach that he’s the master of having and good for him.
I will say that in Great Debates and Politics & Elections such behavior is frowned upon. In the fora I moderate no poster gets to tell any other poster whether they’re allowed to participate in a thread. Barring action by moderation, all posters are free to poster where and when they see fit.
Any other approach is simply contrary to the mission statement of the fora.
You’ve been here long enough to understand that except for zapping spammers and to stop extreme train wrecks, Mods only mod their own forums. We don’t even get the reports that are made in other forums. Seeing a mod post in a thread doesn’t mean anything one way or the other. Personally I have reported posts to the mod of a particular forum and then posted in the thread before any action was made. Just because I posted in the thread doesn’t mean the “bad” post has been endorsed.
Only Miller can speak as a mod for the Pit. As a poster I’m wondering what is wrong with telling someone they are “not wanted” in a forum where you can tell them to go fuck themselves? In the Pit posters say things that would be junior modding in other forums all the time. It has no weight behind it. They can’t actually ban someone from the thread.
In MPSIMS I would not allow it. If someone is being a problem in a thread it should be reported and a mod will take whatever action we feel is necessary. But that’s not the Pit.
It’s the Pit? She can tell him to leave. He can tell her to fuck off. The whole original point of the Pit was for two posters to have it out. In a vacuum, it’s ridiculous to Pit someone and the tell them that they can’t participate in the thread.
Given some of the rhetoric in the thread, it seems a little funny to object to this. But IANAM.
It’s the Pit. If we can call people trolls there, which certainly implies that they shouldn’t be posting at all, I see no reason why we can’t say “don’t post in this thread” as long as nobody expects it to be enforced or respected. And as I have mentioned before, Pitting someone and then not wanting them to respond is a little on the passive-aggressive side.
The drama I miss by not bothering to read certain posters…
Seriously, how can you imagine that something posted in a Pit thread represents a new policy decision that applies across the board?:dubious:
In other forums, such a remark would be junior modding, and would likely be moderated as such. But I’m sure that in the Pit many posters have been told they were not welcome on the board at all, and told to do things that would be moderated in other forums.
Because under old management, there were a fair number of rules that applied across the board, including in the Pit? And it’s not always clear what’s changed and what hasn’t?
But I’ll be damned if I can see the point in bringing such questions to ATMB if mods are going to ridicule you for doing so. The message I’m getting from you here, Colibri, is that we should just play it by guesswork until we do or don’t get warnings.
No there weren’t. There were a couple of language rules in place for a while but other than that the Pit rules are the same.
Those old language rules would have been broken in that thread but you didn’t ask about that. You asked about something that has never been expressly forbidden in the Pit.
Seriously, why would anyone know this, unless they go out of their way to pay attention to who’s moderating which forum?
There’s probably a page in the FAQ or something that normally one doesn’t go to that lists all the mods of all the forums.
Other than that, there’s the mods’ names in little tiny letters at the bottom of each forum main page. (Had to dig that fact out of the memory banks, because I almost never scroll down that far. I remember several years ago, wondering for some reason which mods moderated which forums, and I had no recollection of where to even look for that information, because I see it so rarely.)
And most of the time, I’m not really concerned about the moderation here. Yeah, I know, here I am bitching at you, but the vast majority of the time, you folks do a fine job. So I don’t have a whole lot of reason to go look.
So if you don’t know, or care really, who moderates which forum, you can’t tell whether mods are moderating in their own forum, or in another one. It doesn’t matter if you’ve been here one year or twenty.