Canada: GovGen dissolves Parliament, Carney drops the writ, and the election is on!

**Nanos poll Canada today**: Liberals increase lead to 10-points

https://www.ctvnews.ca › federal-election-2025 › article

2 hours ago — The federal Liberals now have a 10-point advantage over the Conservatives on Day 13 of the federal election campaign, while Mark Carney has opened up a 20-point lead.. :hot_beverage: :kangaroo:

Once again, polls make me scratch my head. The Conservatives are at 36%, but PP is at about 31%. So there’s a significant number of people who are likely to vote for the CPC, even though they’d prefer someone else for Prime Minister.

Is that surprising? Shutting down Parliament is antidemocratic, but some politicians are more abrasive than others.

The Libs chance of winning was up to 99% in today’s CBC Interactive poll, with a six point lead and a 90% shot at majority government.

That’s normal.

PP’s candidate vetting process is basically:

  1. Are you the Trucker nutjob?

I know he owns a lot to these nuts (while Scheer had a minor scandal to his name, O’Toole was turfed after months of right-wing rhetoric and slander), but its PP’s fault that he keeps approving crazies for candidates.

Most are subsidised in one fashion or another.

Why don’t any of these “journalists” get arrested, just Rebel News staff?

Likely because their reporters aren’t allowed into Liberal pressers, so they have to ask on the street which gives more chances for the hired goons to act.
And given former PM Blackfaces tendency to overstep his authority and meet with police chiefs,etc, he has probably directed them and the RCMP to get tough on them.

I notice your article was written by Peter Menzies. Any relation to his subject, David Menzies? It’s not really a common name.

If you read the article, the author denies a relationship.

In related news:
Carney pledges $150 Boost to ‘underfunded’ CBC

I mean if $150 will make a difference, they probably are underfunded (it’s actually $150M).

Good.

I’d also like to point out what Rebel News stands for, from Wikipedia:

Rebel News broadcasts its content only on the internet and has been compared to Breitbart News in the US.[9] Rebel News has been described as being part of the alt-right movement.[10][11][12]

Former Sun News reporter Faith Goldy joined Rebel News after its launch,[13] but was fired for her coverage of the 2017 Charlottesville rally and for conducting an interview with The Daily Stormer.[14] A co-founder and two freelancers resigned in protest of the coverage.[15]Gavin McInnes, founder of the far-right neo-fascist[16][17][18]organization Proud Boys, was a contributor. McInnes departed in 2017, then temporarily rejoined the site for a period in 2019.[19][20] In the midst of the 2021 Canadian federal election, Justin Trudeauaccused Rebel News of spreading misinformation, especially with regards to COVID-19 vaccines.[21][22][23] Rebel News has promoted climate change denial.[24]

Fine people on both sides, truly.

Is your concern that Rebel news fired a racist or that they broadcast only on the internet? As CBC has less than a 5% audience share, how is this much better than that? Most people watch things on the internet now.

CBC needs the $150M as that covers the amount given in bonuses over the last 10 years (as their viewership dropped). They could fire some more employees like they did last time they got a boost in money from parliament (as their viewership dropped further).
Or, we could just send the bill to the people who actually watch it. ~2M (5% marketshare) people into $1.38B CBC budget = $690 per person per year. Seems reasonable. Oops, forgot the extra $150M Carney promised…So, $765 per person per year is what the people who watch it should be paying for it. $40 a year for every Canadian who doesn’t watch it sent to those who do.

An interesting article that covers some concerns and an action plan to fix it.

where is that derived from?

I watch CBC on the internet …seems a stupid number. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Given the Conservative Party of Canada’s stated intention to make public broadcast funding a federal election issue—with its “defund the CBC” slogan—it’s important to examine public funding within a broader context. This analysis looks at how much governments fund public service broadcasters in 18 comparable countries compared to Canada’s support of CBC/Radio-Canada.

The findings include:

Canadian funding is lower than most: CBC/Radio-Canada receives much less revenue from government, on a per capita basis, than most of the countries in the international sample. For example, the average per capita public funding of public service broadcasters in the other 18 countries in the survey was $78.76 in 2022. Public funding in Canada for CBC/Radio-Canada was $32.43—just 41 per cent of the international average.

Fourth lowest per capita: Of the 19 countries in the survey, only the U.S., New Zealand, and Portugal had lower per capita public spending than Canada. Given the requirement to address local, regional and national issues—in English and French, in a huge country with low population density—the ability of CBC to provide such excellent programming at a per capita cost of 10 cents per day is remarkable,

Less total public spending: The percentage of total public spending that goes to fund CBC/Radio-Canada is much lower than that of other countries. The average funding for public broadcasting among the 19 countries in the survey represented 0.242 per cent of total public expenditures. In Canada, public funding for CBC/Radio Canada amounted to 0.12 per cent of total government expenditures—50 per cent of the international average. Of the 19 countries in the survey, only the U.S. and New Zealand devoted a lower percentage of their total public spending to support their public service broadcasters.

Greater reliance on commercial sources of funding: CBC/Radio Canada relies more on revenue from commercial sources than most public broadcasters in other countries in this study. Only three public broadcasters in the sample—Ireland, Italy, and New Zealand—relied on advertising and sponsorship revenues more than CBC/Radio Canada.

The public trusts public broadcasting: Among Francophones in Canada, Radio Canada is the most trusted news source, with 78 per cent of respondents reporting they find it “trustworthy”. TVA comes a close second, with 69 per cent reporting they find it “trustworthy”. Among Anglophones, CBC is the most trusted news source, with 67 per cent of respondents reporting they find it “trustworthy”. CTV comes a close second, with 62 per cent reporting they find it “trustworthy”. CBC is the most watched network, with 64 per cent reporting they watch it regularly or occasionally.

Overall, the findings of this analysis suggest Canadians are getting a lot of bang for their buck in terms of government support for its public service broadcasters. CBC/Radio Canada receive far less government support than almost all other countries in this analysis. Yet they remain the most watched/listened to and the most trusted news source.
Bang for our buck - CCPA

Good enough source?
https://cbc.radio-canada.ca/en/your-public-broadcaster/about-us/answers-to-common-questions

There is no 5% …there is this

While CBC’s television audience share is 4.6%

That’s hardly a comprehensive view of the corporation.

  • Looking at only TV viewing doesn’t give the full picture of how many people rely on CBC every day. More than 20 million Canadians use CBC/Radio-Canada’s digital services each month. Our morning radio shows are the most listened to in 18 out of 23 markets across the country. Our television offers more Canadian programs than anyone else.

Thanks for taking up the mantle while I was asleep!

Uzi thinks the only legitimate journalism in Canada is a muckraking outfit, even discounting the news media owned by US based right wing venture capital firms. It’s nonsense.

Rebel news is a rag. Their main source of revenue is grifting their captured audience of older folks. They work by being wildly inflammatory, fear mongering, and alarmist, with the goal of driving engagement (petitioning/polls) and collecting data (mostly contact info) for resale or direct money begging.

Ezra Levant (stone cold sleaze) is the owner and has been riding this train for decades. Anyone who has paid a minor bit of attention to news in the past 20 years can find endless stories of his scamming (former employees have made youtube videos outlining it all), his connection to the WORST far right looneys who ever spawned from Canada (think of a name… yes! them too), he has been barred from practicing law anymore, and has repeatedly needed to apologize for wild slander under the threat of law suits (check out the Holocaust Soros example).

Rebel media is the Westboro Baptist Church of Canadian media. This doesn’t stop the Rebel from constantly trying to beg for government money to supplement their constant grifting.

I like the CBC - I used to listen to the radio, they had great Olympic coverage, growing up they had good childrens programming. Their news is just okay, but some good investigative journalism shows.

The rationale for $150m was that is what the BBC, etc. get. Seems very weak, but no problem if they can put out products equivalent in quality to the BBC. If the money is going so there are no ads in the news, this is money poorly spent that will likely also fatten executive bonuses.

Are there any great CBC programs now? A lot of their current product seems mediocre. Their radio became hard to listen to because every program seemed to address aboriginal issues. These deserve a place, and I am often sympathetic, but there is also a limited amount of this discussion I wish to hear while driving. An hour a day seems enough to me. I wonder if these issues are also behind Carney’s gift? TV seems to be lots of police procedurals, which bore me.

The CBC is a strong expression of national identity and they broadcast in places up north where alternatives are fewer. They do have some biases in their news coverage, but getting rid of the CBC is a terrible idea. I do want the CBC to produce great shows. I suspect giving them $150m will result in great bonuses, but I would be pleased if I am proved wrong.

Thanks for being able to read my mind and state what I think.
What I know is that any organization that takes money from one party is very likely to be biased against the other party that doesn’t want to give it to them.
CBC loses lawsuit against Conservative Party

At least they are getting their viewers to pay for their content and not expecting YOU to pay for it.

They get their users to pay for their content through fearmongering, lying, scapegoating, and false community. All the classic dark patterns of grifter preachers. Our public broadcaster takes government money and ensure its services stay immensely more informative and valuable. This is why public infrastructure and institutions exist.

The CBC is targeted, not due to its poor performance and bias (as you have stated), but due to its success in informing the public. The current radical elements of the CPC hates journalists (all of them) and scapegoats anyone who serves to inform the public as this is against its blind desire of information control.

Plus everyone should watch or read one piece of news from Rebel Media. It is widely inflammatory, alarmist, and dripping in bias. It serves to excite and inflame for the purpose of discourse shaping, and money gathering. That’s all. The proof is in the pudding.

ETA: Personal observation, it seems like the world that right-wing politicians and activists want us living in, is one where we are always in a state of heighten fear and ignorance. Scapegoat and hate directed at our own public institutions. Tear down the CBC. Christ, that makes just as much as sense as “get rid of the long form census”. Informed public is the enemy of the CPC.

Exactement! As the French would say. :cowboy_hat_face:

Liberals and Conservatives together scratched about a dozen candidates since the writ dropped. After tomorrow, parties can’t nominate replacements.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7502677

Hmmm, have you read what you just wrote? Of course, you’re not doing this.

Our public broadcaster takes government money and ensure its services stay immensely more informative and valuable. This is why public infrastructure and institutions exist.

So, you admit that the CBC is a government mouthpiece for disemminating ‘the message’ as it perceives it, or wants it, to be?

The current radical elements of the CPC hates journalists (all of them) and scapegoats anyone who serves to inform the public as this is against its blind desire of information control.

Which party has had journalists arrested on multiple occasions? Oh, I forgot, they aren’t journalists so it doesn’t count.

Informed public is the enemy of the CPC.

Read your first paragraph again about fearmongers.