And/or attempt to set fire to an apartment building where residents have been complaining…
I heard about the arms cache in Alberta but not about the rammed vehicle and attempted arson. Links, please?
One thing that really infuriates me about this is that the protesters either are, or are pretending to be, confrontationally oblivious to the fact that most of the Ottawa populace is really pissed off about this occupation and wants them gone.
Here’s one:
I gather (though I’ll admit I could be wrong on this, as I’m no expert) that a lot of those in the “convoy” have convinced themselves they are part of a vast majority that, for some reason, it mostly silent. Those opposing them have to be not only in the wrong but a minority.
Talking about enforcing the law selectively is a big deal. If you can ignore law when it’s convenient why can’t others?
Or when you realize that this person is on your side, and is working towards the same goals that you are.
Maybe take a close look at who you’re working with.
Link for the attempted ramming of the police vehicle is embedded in the link above about the 11 armed criminals being arrested.
Nice stretch there, Mr. Fantastic. Can you get me the Invisible Woman’s autograph? 
I still can’t understand how this nonsense lasted longer than a day, two days tops. They have tow trucks in Canada, right? When vehicles are blocking the road and causing problems, you tow them out of the way. It really is that simple.
If they are raging grannies, or environmentalists opposing multinational forestry companies or indigenous people protesting pipelines, this is exactly what they do.
When they are mostly white men, some of them armed, calling for the resignation of the prime minister, and blockading the capital and border crossings causing millions of dollars in damages, then you must just sit back and watch, because, whatcha gonna do, eh?
Why? One, it’s accurate.
And two, as has been discussed in another thread, we can’t win over voters by appealing to their better natures, as I think @Ann_Hedonia said, you can’t get people to buy a mousetrap by making a better mousetrap, you get them to buy a mousetrap by making them terrified of mice.
Cry fascism all day, if that’s what it take to get people off their asses to vote.
Except they are armed and violent and using their children as human shields. Makes it a bit less simple.
I would love to see Sam Stone’s reaction to this whole situation- I mean, it’s his back yard, right? I can’t find him in this thread, however.
As for me- I’m annoyed, and avoiding downtown Edmonton. Several of my friends and coworkers live downtown, and the constant honking and harassment of anyone wearing a mask has really got them on edge. It was particularly bad during the weekend- you know, when the politicians who make these decisions weren’t at the office.
The local police are supposed to be enforcing noise statutes against the honkers, but apparently the counter-protesters have been getting more tickets. A lot of people here feel that the police are selectively enforcing the law.
In effect Canadian governments are middle management. They more or less let the people working the machinery of modern life alone and make adjustments as we go. Taxes go up/down, tariffs get lowered, certain activity get tax breaks, broad platitudes are made, and symbolic gestures get used.
Taking bold definitive action is almost never needed. Watching government action in the early pandemic was like watching a large machine suddenly discover it could move and impose its will. It fell, more or less, back asleep with reliance on “scientific tables”, which allowed it to go back to making adjustments.
Basically, you make rules, we all play along and life hums along like a canoe on wet grass.
The protests are basically “fuck you I wont do what you tell me”. So the first instinct of the managerial governing groups is to ask politely, then ask politely again, and then look for a court mandate to truly insist that rules be obeyed.
We’re now moving into the point where the actual imposition of government will is going to have to take place and they’re out of practice.
On the upside it does make the whole “tyranny!” shouts hilarious.
They used to have a webpage on which was, “We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.” Detractors latched onto that as being “Marxist” even though the concept predates Marxism and Marx himself.
I think he may be taking a break. Last posted Jan 26. (29 posts that day!!)
I guess Jesus was a Marxist.
He’s probably with the caravan.
Here’s a smiling ma-roon…
Yeah - almost groovy, even.