Canadian 'dopers, Freedom Convoy?

So, I guess he didn’t get the publication ban he was rumored to be asking for? Or did he decide that embracing his image as a public loud-mouthed idiot would ultimately be more profitable?

Yes, this.

The Conservative Party of Canada seems to have embraced thinking along the lines of:

“I should have the right to harm other people by infecting them with communicable diseases, because I don’t believe in science”

and

“I should have the right to blockade streets for weeks and cause millions of dollars in economic damage to others because I want the results of a recent election to be overturned.”

This is the “Liberty” that the CPC wishes to have. But only for themselves. Not for others.

People are having their bank accounts frozen without due process for making small donations to a protest when the protest wasn’t even illegal. At least one person was fired from government for it.

The passing of the Emergencies Act was totally unnecessary and a misuse of the act, and pretending anyone who says so supports lawbreaking, blockades or ignoring the pandemic is a straw man of the first order.

No, they are not.

This is a claim from one Conservative MP in British Columbia that he has profferred with NO evidence whatsoever.

In my opinion, it is complete bullshit.

Evidence of latter claim:

An NDP MPP is quoted saying someone making such a donation is “concerning.” I wonder what she’d say about donating to illegal protests or blockades the NDP is aligned with? If the Conservatives win the next election, maybe they’ll make the same move.

The former claim will be proven correct in time.

By the way, people sharing the GiveSendGo info are breaking the law.

The RCMP said Monday account-freezing powers under the Emergencies Act do not affect individual donors.

“At no time, did we provide a list of donors to financial institutions,” Mounties wrote in a statement.

Under the Bank Act (not to be confused with the Emergencies Act), accounts can be frozen for many reasons, like suspicious activity, fraud, or unpaid debts or taxes.

It hasn’t been claimed, so far as I am aware, that the RCMP is freezing bank accounts. And someone sure fired Marion Isabeau-Ringuette, (though that’s not an Emergencies Act thing.)

Point is if individual bank accounts are being frozen, the Emergencies Act has nothing to do with that.

The Public Safety Minister of Canada disagrees with you.

As does the CBC:

Your link does not contain any evidence of people having their bank accounts frozen, as you claim.

It contains a claim that government person was fired from their government job for supporting an illegal anti-government blockade.

Those accounts belong to protestors and/or organizers, not donators.

These links do not say that people’s accounts were frozen for merely donating to the convoy fundraisers. As I understand it, these are accounts linked to organizers, truckers in the blockade, companies associated with these truckers and fundraising organizations.

So again, your claim that people who donated small amounts are having their bank accounts frozen is UNPROVEN.

Your cites do not say what you are claiming.

Are they individual bank accounts? Your claim was they were not being frozen per the Emergencies Act. But in fact they are.

Fair enough; I will concede my specific claim that a donator has had a bank account frozen is thus far not supported with a verifiable example. We’ll revisit this in time.

No, that’s the RMCP’s claim, remember?

[A]ccount-freezing powers under the Emergencies Act do not affect individual donors.

Thank you.

Of course there are accounts that are being frozen; I would imagine Tamara Lich’s account is one of these.

I am of the opinion that the claim by MP Mark Strahl is complete and utter bullshit, and that he will provide no evidence whatsoever.
I am also convinced that he lied on purpose, in order to get this thought out there into the public consciousness, so people like you would repeat it without completely assessing it’s veracity. He just wants “people are talking about it” . A tried and true Conservative smear job.

Since I suspect Lich had no intention of ever distributing donated funds, but in fact was running a scam, this was going to happen eventually. Whcih is, in fact, why I don’t think this was necessary to stop the protests. There was no “spigot of money” supporting the protests. The Gofundme money never arrived because Gofundme suspended it, and even had they not I am 99% sure the grifters were going to pocket most if not all of it. The other one never got any funds to the protesters, either. It’s pretty clear the blockades were largely self-funded by the protesters.

Or this person’s account was frozen, for reasons entirely unrelated to the Emergencies Act, but chooses to blame that.

Yes.

I’m pretty sure that going forward, whenever some right-wing deadbeat bounces a cheque, they are going to try the excuse of “It’s all Trudeau’s fault!!”

In the rush to find the middle, one makes mistakes.

I am not 99% sure of this. And I don’t think that your feeling sure that the money was not going to support anti-democratic illegal blockades is a good reason for the rest of us to simply ignore the problem and let the grifters probably maybe possibly keep the money.