[QUOTE=Mr. Moto]
This is interesting. My wife used to bitch about non-tipping “Canadians” all of the time. Of course she had an excuse - she worked as a teenager in a pancake house in Plattsburgh, NY, and served an awful lot of Quebecois.
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[QUOTE=black rabbit]
I’ve heard of it second hand, from folks that work in restaurants. FWIW.
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Heard it back in the late 1980s, while working in a pizzeria in suburban Buffalo. Blacks had a reputation as being very stingy tippers – if they even tipped – while among waitresses and waiters, Canadians were also known as poor tippers. If they had a lot of deliveries to black customers, and got more than their fair share of stiffs because of it, they might say something like “I’m not making anything tonight, 'cause I’m delivering to so many Canadians!”
[QUOTE=Sunspace]
Let them twist in the wind next time they come crying to the real Canada for water or oil.
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Yeah, deny them hockey players and Celine Dion too, and they’ll be repenting in no time.
Well O.K., maybe the Celine Dion threat could backfire. Substitute Molson instead.
[QUOTE=El Cid Viscoso]
Shit. All this time I thought “Canadian” was a code word for “faggot.” Well, I’m sure that little Nancy at the gym’s pretty confused right now.
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So did I, actually. Well, not the vulgar term, but just “gay.” I have no idea where I got this–I have a vague memory of a stand-up comedian whose routine had something to do with “gay or Canadian?” kind of like the old MTV “Dead or Canadian?” thing, and that’s probably where I got it.
The spouse and I will still comment to each other that “That guy looks Canadian,” but it’s not at all in a disparaging way–just a little verbal in-joke. I know that neither of us mean any disrespect by it (to gay folks *or *Canadians ), and we don’t ever say it loud enough for anyone else to hear.
I’ve never heard “Canadian” used as a code for “black” before. That’s a new one on me.
[QUOTE=Liberal]
That’s what happens when you suppress speech. The ideas remain. Only the words change.
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Yeah, what’re we going to do now, ban the word “Canadian”? We’ll be reduced to furtive gestures and sniggering.
[QUOTE=andros]
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Right, that was the connection I misremembered.
So I guess the evolution goes:
Canadians are poor tippers.
African-Americans are poor tippers.
We want to complain about our black customers, but
We can’t do so without appearing racist and possibly getting our asses kicked. However,
4a. Canadians are a peaceful species and kinda clueless anyway so
When we want to talk about our black customers we can use “Canadian” as code and no one will be pissed off.
Is that about right?
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Where I worked, that was pretty much it. However, not all black customers were “Canadians” - just those that didn’t tip. A conversation between a manager and driver might have gone like this ..
Manager: “Okay, you’re taking five pizzas to the Black Engineering Society on campus.”
Driver: “I hope they’re not Canadians …”
If they tipped, a week later, the conversation might have gone like this …
Manager: “Okay, you’re taking five pizzas to the Black Engineering Society on campus.”
Driver: “Cool!” (looking forward to making a lot of money in tips on one run)
It wouldn’t have gone like …
Manager: “Okay, you’re taking five pizzas to the CANADIAN Engineering Society on campus.”
I’m going to make a guess that the term probably had its start in an American city on the Canadian border with a large black population – Detroit, Buffalo – and made its way from there. Along the way, it lost the hospitality industry/tipping connection, and mutated into a code word substituting for the n-word.
[QUOTE=El Cid Viscoso]
Shit. All this time I thought “Canadian” was a code word for “faggot.” Well, I’m sure that little Nancy at the gym’s pretty confused right now.
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Nope. The correct geographical euphemism for gay people when you really don’t want anybody to know you’re talking about gay people is “Sodomite.”
I’ve heard Canadian used in this context in Cleveland, OH. It seems to be especially used by people who work in government or the like, people who have to at least keep a veneer of decorum about their person because of their job.