Cannabis Extracts for the Primary Treatment of Cancer, Epilepsy, and More

I’ll say.

You seem to be focusing on the fact that even FDA-approved medications can have unanticipated side effects. Absolutely. But, what you fail to acknowledge is that drugs that are approved for use, like Avandia, must have actually been shown to work; they do what they were supposed to (i.e. in the case of Avandia, insulin resistance was diminished and diabetes control was improved). The fact that it turned out to have serious side-effects doesn’t undo its beneficial effect on diabetes.

Have cannabinoids been shown to “cure cancer” or possess any of the other near-miraculous properties claimed of them by JKander? Has their side-effect profile been thoroughly elaborated?

Don’t want yet another pile o’ reports to sift through-Give us the best double blind study you’ve got that shows pot curing cancer(or any other equally destructive disease). No anecdotes. No “assists in the lessening of when in conjunction with other treatments”. No “relieves pain from said disease”(while not dealing with the disease itself.

Still just an anecdote.

You don’t know that. You used cannabis. Your symptoms went away. You have no way of knowing if one caused the other.

That study depended on the mothers to self-report their usage along with members of the community to verify.As far as the scale that was used.

First of all, where did I say it cured cancer? I’m just saying that they may be on to something, get your facts straight and go badger someone else.

Since you don’t want to wade through the reports, how about you find me a study that shows it does not help.

Are you serious? They just miraculously went away after I started using medication that my doctor prescribed? Well I guess we can hold that to all the other meds in the world. That is a foolish argument. Someone already said, OK it’s good for that, but what about…?.

Once again(and please pay attention): It’s your pile of reports, so the job of going through them is yours. If you are going to give us a list of links without even bothering to go through them first to see if they provide the evidence you purport they do, then any “badgering” you receive is well-deserved.
You claim there’s a pony in that pile of crap? Start digging.

Yet another classic rejoinder from the woo files, “prove me wrong”. You’d swear they follow a playbook.

Of course, the playbook that all evidence-based practitioners must abide by, obliges them to furnish proofs to support their claims.

And in order to be taken seriously, you need to do the same.

Tics

http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/ww_en_db_study_show.php?s_id=98

Fibromyalgia

Chronic non-cancer pain

The treatment of spasticity with Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol in persons with spinal cord injury.

The effect of orally and rectally administered delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol on spasticity: a pilot study with 2 patients.

Acute effects of smoked marijuana and oral delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol on specific airway conductance in asthmatic subjects.

Effects of smoked marijuana in experimentally induced asthma.

Pain relief and muscle relaxant for some people.
Duh.

I hear it cures skinny people.

Stop being so ignorant, it comes off as childish. The science is young, stop knocking it. I hope someday you will be proved wrong, and there are health benefits, and people will benefit, but at least give it a chance.

Yeah, I heard that also, more silliness.

I’ll give the proper study of it all the time in the world…but I’m not even going to give the time of day to the dangerous notion that we should skip that process and jump into using it as an established cure-all “medicine” based on marketing and ill-thought-out anecdotes. You came in here in support of the half-assed notions of a marketing major that pot is some sort of miracle cure, and the best you can provide in support is a pile of reports you haven’t even studied yet and links that show it might be able to lessen pain and calm muscle tics in some people. Where the hell are the “miracle cures” for major diseases?

Link, please.

Sez you. All the other medications went through double blind trials. That’s how I know they work. Cannabis hasn’t. As far as I know, your results were coincidence, if they happened at all. I am unpersuaded.

Folks who smoke pot more than three times a week are also more likely to use other harder drugs and/or cigarettes, and that in itself can lead to nutritional disfunctional habits and metabolic control issues. Time magazine analized the study.

I don’t care, that’s your problem.

I have never once disagreed with you on that, nor have I claimed any different.

Are you calling me a liar? Because I take offense to that if you are.

Nice, so you accept science from a journalist, but not a marketing major.

I have never made any of these claims, but you are saying “No Way” without any studies to back up your claims
Czarcasm

I’m 5’8" and 179 pounds, I’m not obese by any stretch of the imagination, look at the halloween picture in the Boo thread, my wife is 5 3 and 123, not obese either and we are both in out forties and smoke daily. The stoner stereotypes are not real for everyone you know.

If only all my problems were so insignificant and easily dismissed.

Easy there champ; I always give people the benefit of the doubt. I think your positions are misinformed, perhaps willfully so. Intellectually incurious maybe, lacking rigor, certainly; but not lies.

As has been explained: No one here is trying to prove that it does not help. Rather, we are asking you for proof that it does help.

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc is the foolish argument here–and it’s the one you’re making.