You talk about something you have little knowledge about you little prick.
You must sometimes get in line if you are waiting to get an operation, but this is a kind operation where you can wait without dying. And this is only for some diseases. (I’m talking about Europe generally here. I don’t know exactly how the situasion are in UK)
By the way, believe that Pinoche went to UK to get an operation.
1, 2, 3: --Fuck you back
By the way: I can see why medical care isn’t free in US. The population are too overweighted. The system can’t bear the load.
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*Originally posted by QUINCY’’’ *
You must sometimes get in line if you are waiting to get an operation, but this is a kind operation where you can wait without dying. And this is only for some diseases.
Who decides which diseases get you to the front of the line?
Here in the U.S. we have a wonderful lady named Hilary who would love to have that job!
Yeah, but my point is that we are interested in the plans that Bush has for America. We are electing someone to run our country, not the world. You have not revealed which nation you are a citizen/subject of, but answer me this: do you think it is your responsibility to elect someone the rest of the world will like? Or do you say, piss off, I’m going to vote for the person who will do the best job for us?
Let’s cut the guy some slack. He’s right. Lord knows, Europeans would never vote for clowns, especially where foreign policy is concerned. Every single elected leader of Europe has obviously only acted in the best interests of the globe as a whole.
No, but I’m allowd to have an opinion about it.
I don’t see the president of the US as the ruler of the world, but his influence are bigger than the ruler of China or the president of France.
Those who live outside US can like it or not, but it does infact have some significance who’s is president there. Not just for Europe, but also China, Japan, Middle East, Africa etc.
A question: are you talking about some kind of global world government here, or just US ?
Besides, isn’t this what everybody here wanna talk about anyway!
It’s hard to debate something else at the moment.
Yeah, I’m talking about how much of an idiot you are if you think you can criticize Bush or America in any way. The U.S. government is one of the most stable governments in the world. We have a stronger economy than any other nation in the world. We have a better social structure. Do you want to know why? Because we wanted it this way. That’s how our government works. People get what they want, what they’re willing to work for. That’s why we don’t have National health care. The people are free to choose what kind of health care they want, and they government is just supposed to protect our right to do so, not become actively involved by “providing” us the health care that the government thinks we deserve. We are truly a nation of the people, and we try to protect our rights by limiting the amount of power our government has over us.
So yeah, when you live in a nation that is better than the U.S., then maybe we will start asking for your opinion on how things should work. Until then, you should take a lesson from our political system and do things that work, and peacefully at that.
And why shouldn’t I ? Everybody have the right to have an opinion. And I do think that people in US have opinion about about leaders in other countries.
Maybe you’re right, but you must also remember that there are more nations than just USA that have a strong economy at the moment.
Hmmm. Could you explain this a bit further ?
You should try to find the breaks here, because I’m not so sure if everybody can “choose” as you say.
What kind of hospitals and medical care do you think we have in Europe. It’s not like in the former Sovjet Union if that’s what you think. I think that our “goverments” try to create the best medical care possible.
I actually like parts of this answer. There should be a limit of the amount of power that the government have over a people. Maybe this power are a to powerfull in some parts of Europe.
But you shouldn’t try to make Europe look like a un-democratc continent. On the other hand, I think Switzerland are the only nation in the world that are 100% (or close) democratic though.
I actually believe, in many ways, that I live in a nation that is better to live in than the US.
USA isn’t my “cup of tea”, but it certenly have some advantages.
While you may have had a good point in mind when you started this inflammatory thread, your comments about guns, “gun culture” (whatever that my be), Texas, the US health care system, the US deficit, and US taxes show you really do not understand at all the issues at hand.
I have posted before on just how poorly the Europeans I work with view the US - they typically view us as being little better than slobbering, uncooth, dangerous barbarians that are only to be humored until we can be controlled.
But you know what is interesting - I also know a few Europeans who have come over to Kansas and spent a significant time here, long enough to really get a taste of not only what our culture is like, but what we as a people are like. And every one of them that has stayed for more than a month has reversed their attitudes 180 degrees. As perhaps some of us might about Europe if we spent an extended time there as well.
Perhaps things aren’t really as they seem to you, Quincy. Perhaps if you could stay with a family in Texas and experience the culture for a few months, you would have a completely different view. Hell, I even surprised a client from England by taking him target shooting with my (coincidentally w.r.t. your OP) Ruger .44 Magnum Super Redhawk. He was extremely hesitant at first, but then I almost couldn’t get him to stop and take a break from punching holes in paper targets, because it was such “smashing fun”. He now brings his family here for vacation, instead of the Continent or Australia, because he has had his eyes opened that this is not a country made up of KKK folk, hillbillies, radical militias, and rape gangs.
My thread wasn’t meant to be all that anti-American. Things may have gone a bit out of hand here and I know of course that most people in Texas are sensible.
Maybe it was a mistake to write that part about Texas, but the point was that 1) this is the pit and I wanted to create some tension when I created my thread 2) I have a strong impression that Texas are one of the states that are most hostile towards Europeans. -and the creator of the word Eurotrash.
By the way: I haven’t said that I think the “gun-law” in USA are mindless. I said something about the gun-culture in Texas, because I think that this kind of fixation around guns are un-natural.
Switzerland is quite far from being “100% democratic”. Far more so than the U.S.
Everyone in the U.S. has the right to decide for themselves what kind of health care they feel they need. Our government is just supposed to protect our society that freely allows us to do so. Right now we have state-run health care systems to help poor and unemployed people obtain health care.
Nationalized health care is a very socialist movement, and to implement it would be one step away from the concept of democracy, limited government, and being a free people.
I don’t doubt that you feel your home nation is in many ways better than the U.S. I would have less respect for you if you felt your homeland wasn’t a good place to live. The U.S. isn’t perfect, it has many flaws that need to be worked out. However, I believe the U.S. government is on the right track more often than any other country in the world.
LOL! Well, I can’t attest to the creation of the word “Eurotrash”, but don’t feel too slighted - Texans are sorta “hostile” towards all other States in the US as well. Especially anything East of Texarkana, North of Oklahoma, or West of New Mexico.
Of course, I use the term “hostile” jokingly. They are a proud, strong culture that considers themselves to be very independent and self sufficient. It has a lot of good qualities. IRL, (and I can say this because I have spent a lot of time in Texas, and know a lot of Texans) the average Texan is as good and polite a person or host as you will ever meet in the US.
The Texas on Television is almost completely alien to the average Texan I know. It is the result of a biased media which has jumped on a stereotype bandwagon for humorous reasons only. You can no more expect to find the “TV Texas” in Texas than you would expect to find the Knights of Nee! in Hyde Park.
But it’s not everybodys choice as you say. You are a Bush man and you probably have choosen a safe medical care system for your self (or your parent have, since you are only 17-18). This dosen’t mean that everybody else can choose even if you can.
If it’s so, then it’s one of the good things that came out of socialism.
Nationalized health care isn’t so unfair, unjust an unhuman as you may think.
I think you should take a better look at your own country before you criticize Europe. Especially when it comes to American medical care with a “choice for all” as you say.
I think maybe you will find that many things are better in Europe.
Not only are you shooting your mouth off about things you’re rather obviously clueless about, you’ve even downright admitted that your opinion is uninformed - and still you’re saying that you’re “entitled to an opinion” ?
Did you notice what this MB is about ? Fighting ignorance, right ? I’ve got nothing against a heated debate to get a point through, but so far you’ve delivered plenty of heat and very little debate.
Oh, and Quincy: Would you be willing to divulge what European country you’re from ?
Then maybe a lot of people on the SD have something to learn. And who (or what) are you to tell me.
This thread was meant as an “outside” look on how US foreign policy would be with Bush as president. Other issues have also been “debated”, but I don’t see what’s so bad about that.
My thread wasn’t created so it could match your taste exactly.
I’m not so eager to tell which country I’m from because of the security on the net. I don’t trust it to be good enough.
Let’s say a live in a smaller country than France, but a bigger one than Luxembourgh.
