Come now, let’s be fair. I’m afraid of Carolyn Parrish too.
Pales in comparison to your illusory belief that these protests matter. There is a good chance that eventually, Iraq will be a democracy. There is no chance that you bongophobes will make one whit of difference in the world. (Other than snarled traffic.)
Which I never said or implied was the case.
Since we are talking past each other here, let’s just drop it.
Everybody makes a difference in the world, one way or the other.
As for democracy in Iraq, it ain’t going to happen, not in our lifetime. Perhaps some sham version of it, which I’m sure you’ll eat up like the tasty shit you and your ilk have been feasting on the past few years.
Now with that in mind let’s figure how to get the fuck out.
Dropped.
Bear in mind that you are talking to a person whose idea of useful action for political change is ethnic cleansing.
You’re right. I took it for granted that you’d understand that I’m talking about those people who like to attend protests. To be sure, a small subset of ‘the left’. In fact, I should be even more specific, because many of these people are so nutty it really is an insult to associate them with the mainstream Democratic party. There are seriously people who just LOVE to protest. They travel from protest to protest. Some of them are trust fund babies for whom the protest movement is their equivalent to being a groupie.
That ‘soft porn’ site is the site of the ‘radical cheerleaders’, who travel from protest to protest giving their radical cheers. My guess: There will be a lot of armpit hair involved.
Here is an example of some of their finest work:
Seriously. You can’t make this stuff up. They also are for Labor. Or against it. I’m not sure. Here is their explanation:
And for whatever reason, they seem to really hate Canada:
Although, it might be in a very strange way.
Meh. Former poster Colonberry already tried that line of trolling; it didn’t work then, won’t work now.
I love these little one line gems you have. Never address anything or answer a question, just a little pathetic quip and off into the night.
Sure, I’m in for $20.
You guys should go protest the attempt by some to stop the democtatic process. That might be usefull.
You just want to ogle the mounties 
Declan
Perhaps. It’s not like the democracy fairy will wave a wand and everything will be alright.
Iraq is a half dead corpse staggering around the world stage. The options are to ignore it and watch as it’s maggot filled guts spill all over the place or try to get it stable enough to begin to potentially support a domestic democratic movement. The fact that we should never have reached this point is irrelevant. We’re here, we fucked and it’s not going away.
The problem is that true democracy can, and will, degenerate into mob rule under the correct pressures.
If every faction gets its votes, and one faction votes to enslave the other (simply hyperbole to make a point) then democracy is still being served. What we want is a representative democracy, or a republic. Preferbly one with a constitution/government which is secular, runs by the rule of law, and wants to exist on the global stage as an equal trading partner. Currently, the chances of that happening are somewhat laughable.
Part of the problem is that we are still trying to enforce an outdated and false-to-facts line of demarcation. Chances are Iraq may not be best as one country. Yes, it would take a UN resolution with teeth to make sure that India didn’t attack the Kurds… but worst comes to worst, it is probably better to create several functional nation-states than one ruled by the toughest brawler in the bunch.
Maybe I will be proven wrong, maybe Suni and Shiite will work with each other and the Kurds. Maybe they’ll coalesce into a true democratic state.
But my money is against it.
India? You mean Turkey?
Correction: $300,000,00 not $3,000,000.
Update: Martin is now offering training: http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/11/30/bush-briefing041130.html
Canada’s military obudsman on the state of our forces in Afghanistan: http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/11/29/julien-troops-exhausted041129.html “overextended”, “overworked”, “exhausted”, “caught in a dilemma, torn between keeping up the operation’s strength in Afghanistan while letting other troops at home rest up from past tours of duty before they’re reassigned back”, “Should we not try to reassess”
Overal state of Canada’s military: http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/cdnmilitary/
Elections take place on Jan 30th - you win
Elections take place after that day for any reason whatsoever - I win
$20
Deal?
D’oh.
I somehow conflated the kashmir situation into… yeesh, need more sleep.
I do indeed mean Turkey.
What’s next, Courtney Love visits the Museum of Sobriety?