Are you able to disprove my statement, or is that even your intention, Epimetheus?
Exercise = rarely bad advice - check.
Doesn’t work for some people - check.
Been discussed before - check.
I burning your dog - check.
Let me know where I lost you; I’m here to help. If you are just trolling for an opportunity to announce yourself as a model of fitness, please let us know so we can commence being impressed.
Jesus, how do you eat 450g of protein a day? That’s like 10 chicken breasts. Plus you’d need to eat other stuff like veggies and fruits and breads and stuff.
I’m with you, Waverly. I miss food just being food. I don’t think I would mind someone going on about, “grams of fat” or “calories”–not that that isn’t obnoxious. But carbohydrates? It’s just FOOD. And cutting whole portions of food out of your diet is unhealthy. No one has yet to prove to me that eating bread/pasta/any other grain is a bad thing. The same with meat…all these foods, getting a bad rap. God, in the next few years we’re just going to get down to vitamins, I’ll bet.
As long as you’ve got a well-rounded diet, then that’s good. But going around saying that certain foods are just bad seems like you’re trying for a quick fix.
Anyways. Dr. Atkins’ diet may get you to lose weight, but who cares how great thin feels when the only way anyone’s going to get to see you is if your relatives request “open casket”?
Dude, I was all about the politeness with you and you gotta rat me out like that?
Damn meathead. 
So are you gonna share the recipe?
I lost forty pounds, back in college, on a high carb diet. It worked because at the end of the day I had consumed fewer calories than I used up.
That said, my doctor put me on a high protein diet last summer. It’s not Atkins, I’ve just started eating more lean meat, edamame, cottage cheese, and cut down on pasta, bread and rice. Dammit if I don’t feel better. I’ve actually got the energy to work out, food cravings are practically gone, and my skin is even clearing up. So, if Atkins works for you, then good for you. I worry about your cholesterol, though.
What tears me up is hearing people prattle on about carbs and spouting Atkins’ half-truths. These are my friends, family and co-workers I see struggling with a fad diet that’s going to leave most of them worse off than when they started. Carbs are not evil and everybodys’ bodies deal with them differently. You can’t paint every weight problem with the Atkins brush.
Bugger Atkins.
I remember my one week on the Atkins diet. I think I know how it REALLY works. After a few days of eating nothing carbohydrate at all – no rice, no bread, no pasta – nothing tastes good anymore, and you don’t want to eat ANYTHING.
Really. I thought I liked meat. I ate a lot of it. Mmm steak. But you can’t eat a taco because of the shell, you can’t eat a bowl of chicken and rice because of the rice, you can’t have a sandwich or anything, anything, ANYTHING that crunches except for pork rinds.
shudder
I remember going to a Mexican restaurant and staring longingly at the chips before I realized I couldn’t have Spanish rice or refried beans. And I couldn’t eat my fajitas in a tortilla.
That was the day I told Dr. Atkins to do something biologically impossible. And I ate tortilla chips. Lots of 'em.
Now I take karate and watch my eating. Two months, I’m down a pants size (haven’t weighed myself; don’t see the point). I’m more muscular and agile and I have better stamina and balance and I feel better…
Exercise. I love it. If you choose something fun, you will too. Promise. Even if you’re hot and sweaty.
I think the very worst thing about low-carbohydrate diets is the way all that ketosis makes people’s brains stop working, leading them to do things like use “intake” as a verb.
I don’t need to disprove your statement. You need to prove it.
Or are you trolling because you are fat and are too lazy to exercise and cling to a silly theory that some people’s bodies break the law of physics to ease the psychological trauma?
Seriously though. If you go around saying “exercise just doesn’t work for some” and spout it off as fact rather than what is based off anectdotal evidence, some guy that is working up the dedication to start an exercise program might be turned off and seek that excuse as a way out.
Since unless you are bedridden or have a physical abnormality or illness, there is no way exercise “isn’t going to work” for you. Its called fooling oneself.
Um, yeah. Those were some outrageous claim on my part. I’ll address your ‘proof’ and your logical fallacies over here.
People still seem to want to discuss Carbs! here. That was the topic, in case you missed it.
Check out ** Anthracite’s ** post in this thread http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=203941
We were talking ice-fucking-cream here.
I’m convinced the best way to make people wish you absolutely never existed is to go on some diet and comment on other people’s food choices based on it. Also blame their normal human moods on what they eat. “You know why you’re getting so upset with me? It’s because you ate cheese at lunch!”
What, you thought the hard part of bodybuilding was the lifting?
The big reason why people don’t make progress in building muscle is cause they don’t eat enough. And there’s a reason–you need a lot of food to gain much muscle.
Now, if you don’t care so much about minimizing fat gain, it’s a little easier, cause you can just eat whatever (and believe me, people do). On the other hand, if you’re looking to stay as lean as possible, then yeah, you’re gonna go through a whole shitload of chicken breasts and tuna.
I just don’t get the Atkins diet. A piece of bacon is better for you than a carrot stick? Butter and cream are better than an apple?
OK, where would you like me to send my exercise papers? I print up a form that lists my weight-lifting routine and check off each exercise as I complete it. That way, I can do them out of order and not worry that I’ll forget. I’m afraid I don’t write down the other 4.5-5 hours of aerobic exercise I get every week, and have for the last 7+ years, but you’ll just have to take my word that I do it. I have almost three years worth of papers.
It’s always just so fucking simple, isn’t it? GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND YOU’LL LOSE WEIGHT! WELL I FUCKING DID NOT LOSE WEIGHT. I went from 135 when I was 22 to 194 at the first of this year (I’m 29). I’m 5’3" and female.
Exercise? Would you like to discuss my 2.5 hour backpack training sessions on Thursdays where I walked at a 20% incline with a full backpack on? What about the fact that I can curl a 20 lb barbell, not a bad feat for someone as small as me who’s never had much upper body strength. Or maybe you’d like to hear about how I can lift a 50 lb bag of kitty litter into the cart? Perhaps you’d like to explain what happened? I did what you said was all I needed. I exercised. And exercised. And fucking exercised my ass off.
And in order to lose all the damn fat, I had to go on Atkins. I now weight 158. I’m not on some damn fad diet. I did a lot of research, specifically looking for the negatives on the diet before I considered it. I read all of Scylla’s GD thread on the subject (tried to search for it but can’t find it), searched the Web, and analyzed it for myself. I decided this was something I could do forever.
And I don’t go around telling people their food choices are wrong or how many carbs are in this or that, unless they ask or attempt to tell me how my diet is wrong. Most of the time, their “knowledge” of the diet is so erroneous I find it impossible to believe they can stand up under the mound of misinformation floating around in their heads.
I never claimed exercise itself was the only thing important to lose weight. Exercise is important to stay healthy, but if you eat more than you burn you will get fat. Simple as that.
Never did I say it was easy.
People talking about losing weight is a bit misleading too. When you exercise you build muscle so that you may actually gain weight and lose fat.
Send me your diet information as well as witnesses for every moment of your day so that they can verify that you never once at that sinclair donut and didn’t keep track of it. Please.
Since I’ve never heard of sinclair donuts, I can assure you I’ve never eaten one.
Thank you, Waverly, thank you thank you thank you!
It’s SO nice to know I’m not alone in this carb-loathing mode!
My work pod is right next to an Atkins Freak. (I’m not calling all people on Atkins freaks, so put down the flamethrowers). I have heard all the details of his weight-loss journey, including why he likes Atkins (several times, since he feels it necessary to share this with Damn Near Everybody), what he can eat and what he can’t at any given time in the program, and Why He Can’t Understand Why He’s Not Losing Anymore Weight. (I can tell ya that, Sparky: you lost some megaboss number of pounds at the beginning because you cut out the five cans of sugared pop per day, and the large amounts of vending-machine-junk-food per day, that’s why. Now you’re chowing down on high-fat bacon, McMatter-without-the-bun, and fried chicken. Oh, and no exercise. Duh. Your calorie intake has equalized your calorie expenditure.)
I am SO SICK of hearing about Atkins, carb counts, and Why I Shouldn’t Eat My Turkey Sandwich that I’m ready to mangle the next person that does that.
DogMom, that would be annoying. And he’s probably not losing weight because he’s doing the HAA diet (half-assed Atkins): all meat and cheese, no vegetables or water.
I think I’d tell the person who complained about you eating the sandwich, “Why don’t we just agree to disagree and enjoy our respective lunches?” Honestly, the rudeness of some people. Our friends order pizza during our D&D games and it doesn’t cause a peep from us.