Casey Anthony . Guilty or not ?

And the Inadvertently Tasteless Tweet of the Day award goes to:

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HA! :stuck_out_tongue: I’m hoping the judge gives the maximum 4 years and she still needs to serve at least one freakin’ year.

I still do not understand why she wasn’t found guilty on the child abuse charges by not reporting her missing then misleading the investigation. But we didn’t see anyone testifying that she drugged/spanked/neglected Caylee in the past.

As others have pointed out, she owes the IRS a ton of money, lawyer fees, and I seriously doubt she’ll ever be thought of as innocent by many people.

I must say that you have a remarkable grasp of the facts that can only recall from watching HLN as you review them. As I said in my OP or implied, I just don’t see the evidence that connects Casey anymore than George and I won’t be swayed by her bizarre behavior which just doesn’t make any sense at all if she was a murdererer.

And now you have been vindicated

It’s a tough nut, because although it’s pretty clear that something terrible happened, it’s really hard to be certain what, because everything about the situation is as crazy as a soup sandwich. The suggestion that Casey was abused by her father makes it particularly difficult to sort out, because it provides a frame of reference in which could mitigate our perception of some of Casey’s worst behaviour.

Is she a pathological liar, cynically spinning outlandish tales to mislead good people?

Or is an irreversibly damaged person who limps along with a coping mechanism of habitually inventing scenarios in which everything is just fine and none of this is really happening, deluding herself into accepting that this is true?

Some of her behaviour might be more explicable under this circumstance, such as keeping up the pretense that she worked at Universal Studios even to the point of taking police there to show them where she worked.

I don’t find the defense’s alternate scenario credible at all, but any number of other things might have happened and the prosecution didn’t really offer much to actually support their scenario.

I hoped to count on the integrity of this community. When I checked the poll for the number of those who predicted not guilty of 1st degree murder there were 22. Now it is 23 . We have an imposter !

Maybe it’s the Real Killer, coming to SDMB to see how the Triumph Of Justice is being received by the Teeming Millions…

That makes a lot of sense. (Especially in light of the jury’s findings.) Thank you for answering me.

Personally, I am saddened; I truly feel like she got away with murder. Lying liars aren’t supposed to win, right? Silly to be that naive at my age, though, I guess.

So? As long as it’s the only reasonable explanation offered that fits all events, there is no reasonable doubt. According to everyone here, a juror cannot consider any theories other than those presented. If no reasonable alternative was presented, how was there reasonable doubt?

And if jurors are allowed to make up their own theories of what happened, what’s their theory that would allow her not to have at least been violating neglect?

No, this clearly shows that the jury bought the dumbest defense possible. And we have ourselves to thank for insuring an uninformed jury.

Unless enough pieces of circumstantial evidence are refuted adequately by the defense, which is what I assume happened with the jury today.

Your ability to second guess jurors who have been involved with this case for weeks, and to do so with such certainty, is disgusting.

I don’t find it disgusting at all. The thought that she can legally buy and carry a gun would scare the hell out of me! I’m reallllly glad I don’t live in Florida! :eek:

You do know the entire trial was broadcast on TV and the internet, correct? Many, many people have seen the entire trial. It’s all here.

What a shocker. I expected a man slaughter conviction. There were always major issues with the premeditated charge. Too many unanswered questions about how the child died, where she died, and even exactly when she died. I guess those issues made even man slaughter a problem for the jury. You can only stretch circumstantial evidence so far.

Now, I can get my life back. I’ve watched every minute of testimony.

I hope Casey uses this experience constructively. She’s been given a second chance at life. She’ll have to carry the guilt of whatever she really did to her child. That could easily drive her into heavy drinking and drugs. Her future could go either way. Plus it’s obvious this girl has some major issues. Normal people don’t invent an entire fantasy world and live in it for years.

I bet meetings with her parents will be awkward. The defense threw the whole screwed up family under the bus. George, especially got raked over the coals. They may not even let her in the house.

Maybe Casey’ll drown in the pool too, unless a fairy nanny kidnaps her first! :stuck_out_tongue:

It is not necessary for the defense to demonstrate an alternative theory. Mostly, they try, but only as a part of their goal of creating a reasonable doubt in the case of the prosectution. It is not necessary for the jury to believe an alternative theory in order to decide that the prosecution’s case was not proved beyond a reasonable doubt.

I doubt she’s capable of feeling guilt. She’ll make a bunch of money off of her fame and live the Bella Vita somewhere where nobody knows who she is.

Jeff Ashton is retiring. I recall reading he’s been a prosecutor over 30 years. WAG He may have delayed retirement to finish the Casey A. case. Losing cases are part of the job. I doubt this loss had anything to do with his decision.
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The problem is that it doesn’t. The prosecution’s version of events isn’t really any more solid than the defense position and they really over-reached.

The whole thing is inexplicable. At the end of it, I have no flipping idea what happened. I think she is beyond screwed up, but yeah, I have doubt that she willfully murdered her kid, and the theory that her sexually abusive father persuaded her to pretend it was a kidnapping isn’t any more outlandish than what the prosecution asked them to believe, and there’s just about as much evidence for it. (Which is to say it’s hardly there at all.)

With hindsight, it seems that they rushed the case to trial before they really had one - though I don’t blame them for their confidence.

I don’t know the perspective that the jurors have, but I don’t see conclusive evidence from the prosecution, and I don’t see any motive. The problem is that nothing really makes sense, and when it comes right down to it, an accident and subsequent bizarre misguided behaviour may seem as plausible as the alternative “She committed cold-blooded, calculated murder to free up more time for herself” theory. Personally, I find that really hard to reconcile with the photos of her with her daughter. I mean, I’ve seen people who regret and resent their children, and that doesn’t look like it to me. How to you get from there to “I’m going to snuff out your life and carry on alone?”

I don’t know. If we were going to get to know for sure what happened, and I had to bet - I’d probably still bet that it was murder. But I’d want to be a bit more persuaded of that before putting her in line for a lethal injection.

She showed no sympathy for them, in the jailhouse interviews or in the courtroom.

At the least, she’s out of the will.

Alan Dershowitz opined that the prosecutors overcharged, and that if they’d gone with a lesser offense, the result might have been different.

ETA: Baez’s comments about the death penalty were interesting – does he mean that it was the death penalty that persuaded the jurors?

Within two years I wouldn’t be surprised if Cindy is telling people that her darling child has never been in trouble with the law. Just like she denied Casey was pregnant at the family wedding. Even after being confronted with a photo of an obvious six month baby bump. George and Cindy testified they didn’t think she was pregnant then. Baez even used the photo in closing to drive home how delusional this family is.

That is a weird family.

I wonder if they’ll leave the Orlando area? Their address is easily found on the internet. The floor plan was even shown during the trial. I’d want to move and regain my privacy.

Sarah Palin comments on the verdict: “Once again we see, with our nation in crisis, President Obama stands by and does idly nothing while an injustice is committed here in this glorious nation of ours. It’s almost strange that the president has not yet made one statement on the issue of the death of young Caylee Anthony. Why the strange silence, Mr. President?”

Okay, not really.