Castle Rock S2 - I'm not frightened

Nor even very entertained. Season two dropped on Wednesday on Hulu, starring Lizzie Caplan as the young Annie Wilkes (from Misery). A decent actor, but she’s wasted in this, as is most everyone else. I’m in four episodes so far and it’s pretty much a mess.

That’s too bad. We haven’t had a chance to start it yet. Does anyone from the first season repeat in this one?

I honestly have no memory of S1. :o

I was going to start a thread about this. I’m really enjoying it. I had no idea they were even making a second season and only happened upon it when watching a replay of SNL.

Lizzie Caplan is doing a bang up job channeling Kathy Bates’s Annie. The plot line itself is kind of bizarre. Is there actually a large Somali population in Maine, or anywhere in the US, for that matter? Speaking of which, am I the only one who involuntarily said “*I * am the captain now” when Barkhad Abdi appeared? The actress that plays his sister is stunning.

Can anyone help me with some of the names / references?

The Imporium Galorium - is that from Needful Things? I know Pop and Ace Merrill are from another story but I can’t place from which book. What about Marsten (the name of the mansion where the junkies hang out)?

Ace pops up in a couple of King books. He was one of the teen thugs in “The Body” novella (Stand By Me) and was mentioned in at least one other novel as an adult. The Marsten House was a major locale in “'Salem’s Lot”.

I unfortunately couldn’t make it through the first season. Nice atmosphere but too slow for me. The Haunting of Hill House was the same way.

I think the realtor from S1 shows up in S2, but I’d need to re-watch both seasons to be certain.

I don’t think Castle Rock is supposed to be frightening so much as troubling, and it is definitely that.

There actually is a bit of a thing in Lewiston. https://apnews.com/7f2b534b80674596875980b9b6e701c9 I haven’t lived in Maine for almost 30 years, but that would have been a hell of a change from when I did.

It is so strange how several people I’ve talked to have no memory of the first season! I honestly cannot remember anything but the vaguest details.

This season has been outstanding so far. The actor who plays younger Annie does a remarkable job but TEEN Annie (Ruby Cruz) should win an award for this episode.

Bumping this - we’re 8 episodes in with 2 to go (and we have to WAIT).

This season has been fantastic in my book - which they finally had a direct tie in to.

There’s a large Somali population in the Twin Cities, in Minnesota, too.

The ending was… well, it was something. I liked it, especially the double-pump at the very end where Annie is well on her way to becoming the Annie from the novel.

“I’m his number one fan” followed by our realization that she killed Joy

The ending was a good twist, but overall I thought the season was unlikable and the characters largely uninteresting. The constant “Pop?” “Pop?” “Pop?” on the walkies made me want to reach out and touch someone. Hard.

Wait, what? I must admit over the course of the series I dozed off here and there and no doubt missed some plot points but I thought I’d been alert for the final two eps.

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[spoiler] Pop, (with Nadia’s help) blew up himself and the Emporium Galorium, thus destroying, um, letters and info about the evil cult (?). The rest of the gang ran across the train tracks, separating themselves from the baddies and letting the clock run out on the window where the ancient entities could come back to earth.
Annie and Joy move on to Canada and Annie takes a job as a live-in caretaker where we see her reading one of the Misery books to the invalid. What else did I miss?

Also, was that my Sweet Baby Bill Skarsgard at the end in the cloak? Are we meant to understand his spirit will continue to linger on earth? [/spoiler]

Sorry to be so dense.I guess the series wasn’t as engaging for me as I had first thought.

Watch the very end of the last episode, starting where Annie and Joy get into an argument at the pier.

Summarized (from memory):

They fight, and Annie drowns Joy. Annie leaves her floating in the water and goes back to the house where she reads Joy’s letter. She runs back to Joy and pulls her out of the water. Frantically, she starts CPR. Joy recovers. But only in Annie’s mind–Joy was facedown in that water way too long. She’s dead.

They go on a roadtrip where Joy is the perfect daughter. Loves her mama, doesn’t want to hang out with the other kids at the ice cream place.

At the signing, Annie lays the book in Joy’s lap. Then we get the one-two punch. Annie says I’m his number one fan, and while we’re all going “Yay! She said it!” the camera pans out to show that Joy’s not there and the book is on an empty chair.

Thanks for that; that actually sounds pretty good. I must have turned it off 10 minutes too early or left the room or something, but I do look forward to watching these last scenes.

You missed much of the last two episodes - including a one or two line exposition about the lake itself - and Pop’s ultimate demise - I would suggest rewatching them as it does tie this season up rather nicely ++ Annie.

You’re right, but the episode with the big showdown at the emporium was so . . .tedious.
I do recall that Castle Lake is a portal between time / dimension but I don’t recall exactly what Pop has to do with it. I think that’s the part that I really didn’t get. I understand that the letters were from Sheriff Lacy (from Season 1) but I’m not sure what they contained, i.e. why was it so crucial for Augustin to get his hands on them. Why was it necessary to destroy them and the emporium? Were the dead under it as well as the Marsden house?

The overall story is good and I liked watching the main characters (if not the characters themselves) but there was just too much filler that I had no patience for. :smack:

[spoiler]Pop’s Connection was only due to the letters from the warden of season 1 and his interviews with the cloaked one (I can’t remember his name). He had no special connection. We’re not entirely sure why Augustin wanted them other than that they had info on their ‘savior’ (perhaps).

As far as I know there were no dead under the emporium.

Pop destroyed them and the emporium so that they had to have Pop - and that gave Pop a way in - Pop was setting out to destroy the evil itself @ the Marsden house. (how he knew the other three would be there to set the charges I’ll leave to the viewer) [/spoiler]

I need to amend my prior spoiler - a short errand helped me recall a couple of details -

@the Emporium - Pop was defending it against the Marsden crew and Augustin - The intial bombs were simply to make the attackers pay as they tried to come in - then he was providing cover so that (can’t recall names) could escape and hide behind the train. He had intended to blow himself up along with Augustin at the end - but his device failed “can’t do anything right”. He had taken the drugs just prior to that final stand, I guess as a last resort, so that he could still be somewhat in control if captured/turned.
@the Marsden House - he was trying to do ‘something’ when Annie and crew showed up with the C4 - he then figured that was his real last stand and that destroyed the house and the ‘evil’, allowing Hope to escape and stab Augustin.