Cat Killer:future people killer?

I am the alohaaloha Zenster spoke of…

People who are violent to animals rarely stop there.

Violent acts toward animals have long been recognized as indicators of a dangerous psychopathy that does not confine itself to animals. “Anyone who has accustomed himself to regard the life of any living creature as worthless is in danger of arriving also at the idea of worthless human lives,” wrote humanitarian Dr. Albert Schweitzer. “Murderers … very often start out by killing and torturing animals as kids,” according to Robert K. Ressler, who developed profiles of serial killers for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Studies have now convinced sociologists, lawmakers, and the courts that acts of cruelty toward animals deserve our attention. They can be the first sign of a violent pathology that includes human victims.

Animal abuse is not just the result of a minor personality flaw in the abuser but rather a symptom of a deep mental disturbance. Research in psychology and criminology shows that people who commit acts of cruelty toward animals don’t stop there; many of them move on to their fellow humans.

The FBI has found that a history of cruelty to animals is one of the traits that regularly appear in its computer records of serial rapists and murderers, and the standard diagnostic and treatment manual for psychiatric and emotional disorders lists cruelty to animals as a diagnostic criterion for conduct disorders.

A study conducted by Northeastern University and the Massachusetts SPCA found that people who abuse animals are five times more likely to commit violent crimes against humans. The majority of inmates scheduled to be executed for murder at California’s San Quentin penitentiary “practiced” their crimes on animals, according to the warden.

In addition, I used to facilitate an animal abuse segment in a “Victim Awareness” class for a southern California county juvenile probation department. My students, ages 11-17, were both incarcerated and out on probation (knowing the next screw-up could land them in a “facility”). More times than not…and more boys than not…abused animals in some manner prior to being arrested for car-jacking, theft, assault, you name it.

The “Chubz” case is how I met Zenster. His dog, Zen, was in the same emergency clinic as was Chubz, a cat who was tied to a railroad track by juvenile boys, doused with gas and set on fire. (See http://www.svaca.com/ourservices.htm#cruelty for more information.)

Here are just a few notable examples of serial criminals who tortured animals:
• As a child, serial killer and rapist Ted Bundy—ultimately convicted of two killings but suspected of murdering more than 40 women—witnessed his father’s violence toward animals, and he himself subsequently tortured animals.

• Earl Kenneth Shriner, who raped and stabbed a 7-year-old boy, was known in his neighborhood for hanging cats and torturing dogs.
• David Berkowitz (a.k.a. “Son of Sam”), who pleaded guilty to 13 murder and attempted murder charges, shot a neighbor’s Labrador retriever.

• Brenda Spencer, who opened fire at a California school, killing two children and injuring nine others, had repeatedly abused cats and dogs, often setting their tails on fire.
• Serial killer and cannibal Jeffrey Dahmer impaled the heads of dogs and cats on sticks.
Can they be rehabilitated? I doubt it, but I am not an expeert in that field. I can tell you, though, that there was a least one person I “got through to” in each class of 30. The kids were required to send thank you notes to all the presentors. I would get at least one, each time, that s/he said they would no longer abuse any living creature after seeing the horrible pictures, videos and stories I had to tell. THAT makes it worth doing what I do.

Mahao Nui Loa, Zenster, for recommending the thread.

Yes, most serial killers have a history of torturing animals, and virtually all serial killers come from physically or sexually abusive or severely dysfunctional backgrounds. That does not explain or excuse what they do. There is no evidence that because these people are psychologically messed up, that’s why they commit their horrid crimes. They don’t become sickos because of their background…millions of others with the same background don’t become like them. The bottom line is, they choose to do what they do because they want to. From an early age they know right from wrong…they just don’t care.
Can an animal torturer be rehabilitated? It depends. I’d say it’s often too late by the time they’re hitting 17 or 18. By that age they have learned to refuse to take responsibility for their behaviour and the pain and suffering they have inflicted on innocent creatures. Not too many of them who have a long history of animal cruelty would have a hope of rehabilitation, simply because once a person has developed their sick obsession, it is going to be very difficult, if not impossible to turn them around. If they’re caught at the early stages of this disturbing behaviour, then the chances are higher that they’ll see the light.
The authorities and educators must learn to recognise that certain behaviour in children (like arson and torturing animals) is an indication of very serious future problems for society. For example, a teenager caught coming out of a house with stolen goods should be recognised as having a very different agenda from a teenager who has been busted hurting or killing their neighbour’s cat or dog. While the burglar may initially seem more dangerous to most people, I would personally be more concerned about the one who enjoys hurting animals, in terms of potential for future violence, simply because the one who enjoys hurting animals may well become a violent offender against people in the future when he realises that hurting the neighbourhood pets no longer satisfies him. The problem is that when they realise that each successive experience doesn’t completely fulfil their fantasy or ease their frustration and anger, rather than look for another productive outlet, they get more frustrated and usually more violent.

Hard to argue with you, Necromancer.

Personally, I believe most of this is attributable to irrational and incoherent philosophy being taught to this nation’s children for the last 50 years.

Torture of animals is bad, mmkay.
However there is pweeta…
disgusting link posted by someone who should know better deleted

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People do NOT click on Arfur’s link! It has disgusting pictures of mutilated, dead animals.

I’ve “liberated” negected animals too, Necromancer, and never had a moments guilt about doing so.
I live on 19 acres.
When we first bought the farm, one of our neighbors had two dogs that they pretty much ignored. Within days of us moving next door, the dogs had decamped to our property. Let me add that the poor mutts were not spayed, had never received one iota of preventive medicine and were riddled with worms and fleas.
As we already had three dogs, we were not prepared to add these two to our canine family.
When I pleasantly pointed out the fact the dogs were now living in my barn, the stupid bitch’s answer was something to the effect that she’d never liked one of them anyway and was going to shoot it soon.
I won’t continue to bore you with all the details but I did end up by paying to have both dogs neutered, got them their shots, and drove them to a no kill shelter.
I still have her cat who also fled to my property as quickly as possible.
Her two sons also began to hang out over here because she had no interest in them either. All I ever heard her do was shout at them from the doorway of their doublewide.
She divorced her husband 2 years ago and took the boys with her. I saw them last summer and they don’t seem very happy.

Oh, and the one cow dog that she left behind?
Her husband shot him when he sold off his herd and left him rotting in the front field.
I wish I’d managed to get my hands on the poor guy.

alas, my friend from flame, they are not mutilated, only being readied for the grill…

We took three of our neighbor’s cats to the farm where we got Misty, Buffy and Gypsy. They had lost their mortgage and left their cats behind, coming only every couple days to feed the cats.

It was funny when they came back calling for the animals a week or so later. Last we heard, all three felines had been adopted.

Cool. Belive it or not I got all of my pets off of the street. One is “kitty kitty cupcakes” (my sis named her) I call her my $300 kitty. Got the bill to prove it. :wink: The pweeta link may have been a little off color. (I still think it is funny as hell… perhaps a graphic warning would have sufficed.) Apologies,
Arfurvirus